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Post by potet on Jun 9, 2021 18:22:07 GMT
Yesterday I noticed two copies of my didactic book Ancient Beliefs and Customs of the Tagalogs were recently sold by Lulu to clients in Ireland. One copy will bring me royalties, the other not. I have just placed a ticket with Lulu to know why.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Jun 9, 2021 19:15:30 GMT
I would certainly like to know why too! That is unsettling.
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Post by Ken on Jun 10, 2021 6:43:54 GMT
Apart from the Lulu report do you have evidence of two sales?
Could one have been a return, or a cancelled sale, purchase only half completed?
i’m sure that there is a simple answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 7:49:49 GMT
Apart from the Lulu report do you have evidence of two sales? Could one have been a return, or a cancelled sale, purchase only half completed? i’m sure that there is a simple answer. Multiple devices, download permitted to all by same buyer. Perhaps that would explain it.
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Post by potet on Jun 10, 2021 8:47:30 GMT
Maggie, all I have is the Lulu report. The two entries are sales. This means both copies were sold at the price indicated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 9:17:25 GMT
Maggie, all I have is the Lulu report. The two entries are sales. This means both copies were sold at the price indicated. I thought I'd seen this issue before and the person who had it raised a ticket and got that response. Let us know what they say. It's likely not your case. You can write to them at Facebookvia messenger. It might be quicker.
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Post by potet on Jun 10, 2021 18:00:27 GMT
Lulu e-mailed me the explanation today.
There are two beneficiaries to my sales: yours truly 0% and a niece of mine 100%. Whenever a sale is made, as the general record doesn't make the difference between us, the sale is entered twice, once with the royalties, and the other without royalties.
I accepted the explanation, for the sake of good relationship, but suspect it is wrong and simply ad hoc otherwise this rule should be applied to all sales by the Lulu bookstore, which is not the case.
If you remember, I had an issue with Amazon about this title (Ancient Beliefs and Customs of the Tagalogs). A copy was bought about every week, but I discovered that Amazon ceased to pay me royalties starting October 2020. I placed a ticket about it, and Lulu answered the price of this book was too low for Amazon to make a profit on it.
Lulu advised me to use their program to calculate the price of a book starting from the profit I wanted to make on it in global distribution. To be paid 10€, I had to sell this book 53€+ ... This was when I decided to remove all my titles from global distribution.
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Post by Ken on Jun 10, 2021 18:18:17 GMT
I’m sure you’ve done this before.
Or someone else did here.
I said there was a simple answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 19:46:43 GMT
Lulu e-mailed me the explanation today. There are two beneficiaries to my sales: yours truly 0% and a niece of mine 100%. Whenever a sale is made, as the general record doesn't make the difference between us, the sale is entered twice, once with the royalties, and the other without royalties. I accepted the explanation, for the sake of good relationship, but suspect it is wrong and simply ad hoc otherwise this rule should be applied to all sales by the Lulu bookstore, which is not the case. If you remember, I had an issue with Amazon about this title (Ancient Beliefs and Customs of the Tagalogs). A copy was bought about every week, but I discovered that Amazon ceased to pay me royalties starting October 2020. I placed a ticket about it, and Lulu answered the price of this book was too low for Amazon to make a profit on it. Lulu advised me to use their program to calculate the price of a book starting from the profit I wanted to make on it in global distribution. To be paid 10€, I had to sell this book 53€+ ... This was when I decided to remove all my titles from global distribution. Try one book at IS and see the difference.
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Post by benziger on Jun 10, 2021 23:01:07 GMT
If you are not in a hurry , you may prepare everything and waiting for an 49$ coupon to re-publish the books next time there is one of this coupons. You can even start the upload process to be sure, the PDF is accepted, but interrupt it until you have a coupon.
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Post by Ken on Jun 11, 2021 6:20:41 GMT
If you are not in a hurry , you may prepare everything and waiting for an 49$ coupon to re-publish the books next time there is one of this coupons. You can even start the upload process to be sure, the PDF is accepted, but interrupt it until you have a coupon.
A word of caution. ingramSpark require an ISBN to even start a process. (They will not accept Lulu ISBNs).
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Post by benziger on Jun 11, 2021 7:55:03 GMT
If you havn't your own ISBN, Ingram gives you an ISBN, but then you have to pay the 49$ - coupon will not work.
If you have your own ISBN, Ingram works with and without coupon.
Ken is right: Lulu's ISBN are not your ISBN.
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Post by Ken on Jun 11, 2021 8:07:41 GMT
To clarify my point. If you go to IS from new You can’t even start a publication without an ISBN and without having either a free use coupon or paying.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jun 11, 2021 13:01:46 GMT
To clarify my point. If you go to IS from new You can’t even start a publication without an ISBN and without having either a free use coupon or paying. True, using IS will cost more money initially.
On the other hand at IS it's possible to set up the discounts brick and mortar sales want before they'll invest in buying books for stock.
I remember paying $150 a pop for Global Reach [and the Lulu ISBN] at Lulu Press and there's no guarantees that won't be reinstated.
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Post by Ken on Jun 11, 2021 13:34:14 GMT
I think that you too are missing my point.
With Lulu one can start the publishing process of defining book size, book body and covers uploading PDFs, setting prices and everything up to downloading a proof without any need for an ISBN.
One just cannot do that with IngramSpark.
My comments were in response to a suggestion that an author could start transferring their current books without any problems.
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