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Post by ad on Dec 27, 2021 18:13:47 GMT
In the past, a "linen wrap" hardcover binding with dust jacket from lulu was quite nice, but I recently got another copy that has a completely different construction. It looks like just a paperback binding, glued into a hard cover. Quite different from how the old linen wrap hardcover was constructed.
Did Lulu change the way they make "linen wrap with dust jacket" hardcovers? Are there any options (maybe with other companies) to get the old style of hardcover?
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Dec 27, 2021 20:07:47 GMT
In the past, a "linen wrap" hardcover binding with dust jacket from lulu was quite nice, but I recently got another copy that has a completely different construction. It looks like just a paperback binding, glued into a hard cover. Quite different from how the old linen wrap hardcover was constructed. Did Lulu change the way they make "linen wrap with dust jacket" hardcovers? Are there any options (maybe with other companies) to get the old style of hardcover?
Edition One does line hardcover with dust jacket, but it's a bit pricey [example linen hardcover with dust jacket 6"x9" 400 pages would cost $107 per copy (1 to 9 copies), cost goes down for a 500 copy print run but the total is about $16,660]. www.editiononebooks.com/linen-hardcover
KDP also offers the hardcover but I haven't looked at it yet.
Other providers are a web search away.
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Post by ad on Dec 27, 2021 20:39:16 GMT
In the past, a "linen wrap" hardcover binding with dust jacket from lulu was quite nice, but I recently got another copy that has a completely different construction. It looks like just a paperback binding, glued into a hard cover. Quite different from how the old linen wrap hardcover was constructed. Did Lulu change the way they make "linen wrap with dust jacket" hardcovers? Are there any options (maybe with other companies) to get the old style of hardcover?
Edition One does line hardcover with dust jacket, but it's a bit pricey [example linen hardcover with dust jacket 6"x9" 400 pages would cost $107 per copy (1 to 9 copies), cost goes down for a 500 copy print run but the total is about $16,660]. www.editiononebooks.com/linen-hardcover
KDP also offers the hardcover but I haven't looked at it yet.
Other providers are a web search away.
Thank you for the reply. From each company's web site I can determine whether the company offers hardcover, and even whether they offer the hardcover with dust jacket, but what I can't determine is whether the construction of the hardcover with dust jacket is the good construction that Lulu used to do, or the bad construction that Lulu does now. Does anyone know when Lulu changed from the good construction to the bad construction? It's difficult to even ask the question, because I don't know what to call the two different kinds of construction (other than "good/old" and "bad/new"). Does anyone know the difference I'm talking about? Maybe I will send a message to Lulu to see if they can shed any light on the change. |
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Post by benziger on Dec 27, 2021 20:46:26 GMT
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Post by benziger on Dec 27, 2021 20:55:01 GMT
Was one bound and the other glued (lumbecketed)? Or did it used to have a endband?  |
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Post by ad on Dec 28, 2021 2:36:06 GMT
Was one bound and the other glued (lumbecketed)? Or did it used to have a endband? The good old construction (on the right) had an endband and was very solid. The new construction (on the left) seems to be literally just a paperback book that has been glued into a cardboard cover. It's clunky and ungainly. Might as well just have the paperback.  The old book had an endband, and the spine was rounded and solid. |
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Post by BlueAndGold on Dec 28, 2021 14:13:43 GMT
LSI hardbacks are simply paperbacks glued to cardboard. Very disappointing. They even use the paperback paper instead of the bright white Lulu uses.
Lulu at least disguises their glued hardbacks (on the right) better and uses the correct paper. The cover printing is deeper and richer too. Attachments:
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Post by potet on Jan 1, 2022 12:34:01 GMT
I no longer publish linen hard-cover books with jacket. I convert all these into paperbacks one by one.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Jan 20, 2022 15:31:37 GMT
One problem I am sure many of us have, is we have little control over who actually prints the books (Lulu use many printers) and often due to customers being able to order direct (due to ISBNs) from places, we rarely see how well our books are actually created.
It's also not a help to order samples, because they will be created by a printer as close as possible to you. Some one ordering from some other country will rarely get a book printed by the same company who printed the book you have seen.
I would assume the same applies to Amazon because I doubt they have one central place that prints every POD book.
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Post by tasmanianartist on May 17, 2022 6:50:16 GMT
Just lurking - as usual, no wisdom to spread, also as usual; and only putting my two-and-a-half cents' worth in ... the only possible reason that I get a hardcover of one of my books in these times is solely to not have to watch the 'dog ears', the corners, curl up on the covers of lower-end paperbacks. Most 21st century hard cover POD books - if not bound in the traditional manner by traditional printers - are indeed just paperbacks with a cosmetic hard cover. I dispense with dustjacket altogether now and just have the glued hardcover (hard-case-binding?), when getting a 'hard-cover'. Other than that, I'm busy reducing my cyber footprint - deleted Gmail, deleted Facebook, and a few minor things, set outlook/hotmail on auto-reply to point to a more convenient provider On that note: has anyone else had trouble proving they are themselves without a mobile/cell, or i-phone? I don't have one, and will not get one (personal choice still counts, yes?) - my email should suffice. What Microsoft (outlook/hotmail) does is: if I want to make an update in settings such as deleting one of my six email aliases, I must receive a code sent to my mobile phone, which does not exist. Since it doesn't exist and can't enter a code to unlock my detail settings, I must now wait for 1 month, before the update can take effect - and since that update attempt, Microsoft bombards me daily with a 'new kind of ad', badgering me to upgrade my account. If that's not bullying I don't know what is. They'll go the same way as Gmail and Facebook in a short while, once everyone has got the message from the auto-vacation-responder I put in place. Anyway nuff prattling - but I agree with ad - and I would understand a higher price for a decent linen-wrap hard cover. My 3-inch thick Langenscheidt that I used for 13 years to translate 30+ books is still in one piece - it's a semi-old-fashioned hard cover binding with a fabric strip on the spine (no stitching, the paper is glued), and with hard-case cover. Plain glueing would not have survived my daily handling for over a decade, at least the fabric strip gave it enough stability to survive. |
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Post by BlueAndGold on May 17, 2022 12:48:16 GMT
Indeed. The intrusive nature of MicroSoft's new approach to their customers is nothing short of rude. I very much regret buying Win10.
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Post by tasmanianartist on May 18, 2022 11:05:14 GMT
Indeed. The intrusive nature of MicroSoft's new approach to their customers is nothing short of rude. I very much regret buying Win10. I hear you. I got tired of it years ago - and went to mac... but I won't have another mac after this one, either ...
I started last Saturday, I think, retreating from Google (I've also found an alternative of googleDrive, called ProtonDrive, to share some small research publications - tho still in beta, but it'll do me), with only Youtube left - does anyone have a recommendation on an alternative video site that's plain and simple to operate?. Then moved on to sort out outlook/hotmail (that's still going), and then all of my online accounts (gardening, apparel, kitchen appliance, bank, paypal, website ... anything and everything - almost everything), which now all have a protonmail email address. Plain and simple and no screaming adverts. It's now Wednesday evening and I'm just double-checking logins. The one for lulu.boards also works - no typos in the pw - hooray.
Talking of hard-cover ... I did a 380page, full, edge-to-edge colour (each page) photo album, and put it on Lulu.com because they have 21x21 inch size - and haven't bought one yet for myself, because it's too expensive for what it is. According to my publisher friend in Germany, the Russian mischief has caused the paper prices in the book industry to go up ... we've already put life on hold for three years because of a zoological virus that jumped the barrier, and now a different kind of virus jumped a border it shouldn't have and put more things on hold.
I hope neither virus gets too much more in anyone's way ...
cheers
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Post by BlueAndGold on May 18, 2022 13:01:54 GMT
I don't know much about video sites, but one alternative to YouTube is something called Rumble.
But I have no opinions either yea or nay. I don't really use either. |
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Post by tasmanianartist on May 20, 2022 5:16:23 GMT
BlueAndGold ah ... Rumble now belongs to Donald Trump's own universe ... LOL ... I'm trying Vimeo at the moment - so far so good - only need something for some backyard mementoes ... and my last remaining video connected to my 13-year self-publishing adventure. Cheerio
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