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Post by dennisb on Feb 19, 2023 7:39:51 GMT
So I read in LULU the tip to be sure each chapter starts on an even numbered page. Use appropriate Section Breaks, etc. So my first page in the Word document is my Title page which Word recognizes as page 1, which I assume will be on the right side, inside the cover. (I am not referring to my numbering, which will begin after front matter) So it seems to me that each chapter should start on the right, which will be an odd numbered page.  ?? |
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Post by sirram on Feb 19, 2023 12:18:43 GMT
Yes, each chapter should start on an odd-numbered page (known as "recto") - see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recto_and_versoThis could mean that the facing page to its left ("verso") may need to be blank. For the books I have edited, a blank "verso" page provides an excellent opportunity to include more images. No point in paying for the printers to print a blank page. If you look through the books on your own bookshelf, you will no doubt find a few where a chapter starts on the verso page, but I always think this looks a bit ugly. |
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Post by Mag2024 on Feb 19, 2023 18:20:55 GMT
So I read in LULU the tip to be sure each chapter starts on an even numbered page. Use appropriate Section Breaks, etc. So my first page in the Word document is my Title page which Word recognizes as page 1, which I assume will be on the right side, inside the cover. (I am not referring to my numbering, which will begin after front matter) So it seems to me that each chapter should start on the right, which will be an odd numbered page. ?? Each PART must start on the right. Each new chapter can start right or left. Go into any bookstore and have a look. This is not a Lulu hard and fast rule. |
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Feb 20, 2023 0:26:08 GMT
It's not 100% unusual for chapters to start on a left page, or to even continue on the same page as the previous chapter. It's often seen in cheap 'pulp' paperback novels. The publisher is just trying to save money! It's not a method I like though.
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Post by dennisb on Feb 21, 2023 23:05:58 GMT
The LuLu tip said that each chapter should start on an even numbered page?? My 'right side' pages are odd numbered, that was my question.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Feb 22, 2023 0:33:36 GMT
It's often up to the editor, which is you. I am currently reading the massive selling (80,000,000 so far) Wheel of Time series paperbacks, and am on book 12. Each book is very thick. Each chapter starts from just after the previous one, regardless of which side it is on. Each chapter is separated by a bit of artwork though, like a large logo.
Lulu can be a bit 'funny' though, insisting that the places a book is distributed to are pedantic about layout. I doubt it's really true. Even more so if not using an ISBN.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Feb 22, 2023 1:22:41 GMT
Through Lulu's worldwide distribution channels, I have published a smaller book (~230 pages) with all chapters starting on the right, odd page, just because I think it's pretty. I have also published a larger book (~620 pages) with chapters starting on both left and right pages simply to reduce page count.
Lulu, Amazon, etc. print them just fine, either way.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Feb 23, 2023 1:03:38 GMT
I prefer the look of new chapters starting on the right also. And often due to writing fiction I often precede it with a blank page. Often being able to see the next chapter while reading the last of the previous one can be a 'spoiler'!
OK, the book I previously mentioned, is like this >> Chapter ends. A bit of a gap. Then a large font centred chapter number. Then a bit of art. Then a large font, but not as large, centred chapter title. There's no mistaking when one ends and another starts! And I don't suppose these are cheap pulp paperbacks considering they cost around £11 each. (An average of around 850 pages though!)
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Post by farleagueranger on Mar 6, 2023 13:56:33 GMT
With the short chapters in most of my novels (frequently in the 1000 to 1500 word range), I would have way too many blank pages if I started them all on the right (odd). Sections (if I have them), yes, I will place on a right side page.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Mar 6, 2023 14:58:50 GMT
That sounds about right.
My stuff is in verse-novel format. Sometimes chapters are many pages and sometimes only 1 or 2 pages, but that way comes out looking good.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 7, 2023 0:57:57 GMT
The trouble with POD and BOD, it's very expensive. A blank page costing the same as one with content. However, in something with not many words, page count should not be very high even leaving blanks. The covers carry a lot of the actual cost of a POD book. They are printed on thicker card, priced as full colour, even if your cover is B&W and selected as such, plus lamination, then of course binding it to the pages.
But, very often a chapter ends on half a left page, even if it's just a few lines in fact. So New Page is used, and the next chapter is then on the right.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 7, 2023 0:59:34 GMT
Oh, and of course there's a blank page at the start, then the Copyright page, and the pages have to be divisible by four usually :-)
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