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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 15:19:45 GMT
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 17, 2020 16:21:57 GMT
That's better. But is it telling animals to be kind?
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 17, 2020 16:38:46 GMT
Kevin does make a good point. Does the cover really convey the idea of the book?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 19:34:28 GMT
I thought I was saying "let's be kind to animals"---words with children--- plus picture of animals. "Children let's be kind to animals". How could animals that people eat or keep as pets (Just the cat) be kind to humans? However thanks Kevin and Ron, I'll think about it. Maybe I'll come up with something different.
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 17, 2020 22:12:45 GMT
I thought I was saying "let's be kind to animals"---words with children--- plus picture of animals. "Children let's be kind to animals". How could animals that people eat or keep as pets (Just the cat) be kind to humans? However thanks Kevin and Ron, I'll think about it. Maybe I'll come up with something different. Well, the book isn't really just about being nice to animals. That is, it's not really about feeding ducks and petting kittens. It's trying to make readers aware of how terribly unkind we can be and how this needs to change. The cover probably should reflect this theme to a degree. It's probably just that old bugaboo, subjectivity, raising its scaly head. You know what the book is about, so the title and art is a little more meaningful to you than it might be to someone seeing the book for the first time. |
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 18, 2020 0:21:43 GMT
I thought I was saying "let's be kind to animals"---words with children--- plus picture of animals. "Children let's be kind to animals". How could animals that people eat or keep as pets (Just the cat) be kind to humans? However thanks Kevin and Ron, I'll think about it. Maybe I'll come up with something different. There are many books for kids which feature animals as the main characters. And not just for kids as Watership Down and Animal Farm shows.
BTW. This may interest you. GMTA? Already  www.amazon.co.uk/s?i=stripbooks&k=childrens%20animal%20fiction&ref=nb_sb_noss_2&url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks |
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 18, 2020 0:23:24 GMT
How could animals that people eat or keep as pets (Just the cat) be kind to humans?
They can in fact be quite vicious when the mood takes them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 5:47:28 GMT
It's probably just that old bugaboo, subjectivity, raising its scaly head. You know what the book is about, so the title and art is a little more meaningful to you than it might be to someone seeing the book for the first time.
You are right Ron, I know what the book is about but others don't. Both you and Kevin are probably right about the cover. Also maybe I should re-think the title. I certainly jumped the gun by sending the book off so early to publishers. Still I will self publish if I must. I am rewriting parts of the book anyway and changing the size. Thanks both.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 9:42:16 GMT
 I have just added a subtitle "Animal well-being should include the “five freedoms”: freedom from hunger and malnutrition, freedom from discomfort, freedom from disease, freedom from injury, and freedom from pain" (Science Direct) Animals kept in factory farms are in pain and suffering. I hope this tells what's in the book |
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 18, 2020 12:26:57 GMT
It's probably just that old bugaboo, subjectivity, raising its scaly head. You know what the book is about, so the title and art is a little more meaningful to you than it might be to someone seeing the book for the first time.You are right Ron, I know what the book is about but others don't. Both you and Kevin are probably right about the cover. Also maybe I should re-think the title. I certainly jumped the gun by sending the book off so early to publishers. Still I will self publish if I must. I am rewriting parts of the book anyway and changing the size. Thanks both. Don't worry too much about a publisher fussing over things like titles. They will be interested in the content of the book and what it has to say. Just to give you a reassuring example, the book I am working on right now had a working title that I really liked. The publisher accepted the book with open arms...but suggested a different title for it. |
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 18, 2020 12:27:40 GMT
I have just added a subtitle "Animal well-being should include the “five freedoms”: freedom from hunger and malnutrition, freedom from discomfort, freedom from disease, freedom from injury, and freedom from pain" (Science Direct) Animals kept in factory farms are in pain and suffering. I hope this tells what's in the book What if the title were LET'S BE KINDER ? |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 18, 2020 12:37:56 GMT
I have just added a subtitle "Animal well-being should include the “five freedoms”: freedom from hunger and malnutrition, freedom from discomfort, freedom from disease, freedom from injury, and freedom from pain" (Science Direct) Animals kept in factory farms are in pain and suffering. I hope this tells what's in the book What if the title were LET'S BE KINDER ?'Let's Be Kinder' is a good idea as it not only includes the author's primary intent, but also includes a secondary intent by extension that doesn't have to be explicitly stated: If we can be kinder to animals as we should, then perhaps we can kinder to people as well, such as those less fortunate.
Children tend to see deeper meanings than they are often credited for.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 18, 2020 15:45:53 GMT
Book titles can be deliberately a bit like news headlines. More eye grabbing than the actual story.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 15:55:35 GMT
That's an idea Ron and Sphinx-Cameron, thanks. Then I only have to add 2 more letters. It did take a long time to do the title. I hand-drew the letters and the children on them. Then I scanned it in and painted the title. After that I made the cover. It took so long because I can only spend an hour on the computer a day with this kind of work. Otherwise I get back and shoulder pain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 16:06:03 GMT
The problem is Kevin I'm not that good a writer, but I do enjoy putting pen to paper about issues that I feel strongly about. As you know I almost gave up writing but you persuaded me to continue, for which I am so grateful. I started creative writing very late in life and although I have improved I still have a long way to go. Do you notice how many cliches I use? I find metaphors and similes so difficult. However even though I use cliches in my conversations and messages, I do try to avoid them in my creative writing.
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