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Post by ronmiller on Mar 18, 2020 17:46:10 GMT
The problem is Kevin I'm not that good a writer, but I do enjoy putting pen to paper about issues that I feel strongly about. As you know I almost gave up writing but you persuaded me to continue, for which I am so grateful. I started creative writing very late in life and although I have improved I still have a long way to go. Do you notice how many cliches I use? I find metaphors and similes so difficult. However even though I use cliches in my conversations and messages, I do try to avoid them in my creative writing. Avoid cliches like the plague.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 18:53:10 GMT
I try Ron. Occasionally I slip up but mostly I avoid them. The problem is that many cliches are so good, that's why they became so popular.
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 18, 2020 19:08:30 GMT
I try Ron. Occasionally I slip up but mostly I avoid them. The problem is that many cliches are so good, that's why they became so popular. "Avoid cliches like the plague"! Get it?
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 18, 2020 19:17:03 GMT
That's an idea Ron and Sphinx-Cameron, thanks. Then I only have to add 2 more letters. It did take a long time to do the title. I hand-drew the letters and the children on them. Then I scanned it in and painted the title. After that I made the cover. It took so long because I can only spend an hour on the computer a day with this kind of work. Otherwise I get back and shoulder pain. Don't overworry about the title or the cover. It's the content of your book that a publisher will be interested in. They may have their own ideas about the cover art and title. As I mentioned, the publisher of my next book changed the title (to one I like less, but, hey, they're paying for it). Added later: In case you wondered, my title was 200 Moons and Counting. The new title is Natural Satellites: The Book of Moons.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 18, 2020 20:54:20 GMT
I try Ron. Occasionally I slip up but mostly I avoid them. The problem is that many cliches are so good, that's why they became so popular. "Avoid cliches like the plague"! Get it? Ron,
Thank you for the levity. After yet another trip in to find shelves stripped bare the chuckle helped.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 5:00:12 GMT
Even though I'm sitting at home and doing what I can to end the atrocious factory farms, individually each one of us can play our part to end this terrible way of treating animals. I am not anti-farmer, I just want the animals that people eat to be treated properly by farmers, not stuffed into cages and crowded into rooms with concrete floors etc. Many of us make an individual effort, as I am trying to do with my book and articles and poems that have been published in newspapers. However we also work with others who feel as passionately as we do. Here is just one example of what we have achieved as a group.
Kevin please note this is England we are talking about. You do seem to think that farm animals are treated well here, but that is not the case, millioms are mistreated. I signed this petition and we managed to get a debate in Parliament yesterday.(which I listened to) Many of our petitions result in debates with laws being passed. Hopefully a suitable law will be passed in this case.
"Across the UK, millions of farmed animals are kept in cages, unable to express their natural behaviours. This causes huge suffering.
We call on the UK government to end this inhumane practice by banning all cages for farmed animals. Cages are cruel.
This cannot be the future of British farming.
We, the undersigned, call on the Secretary of State for the Environment Food and Rural Affairs to bring forward legislation that amends the Welfare of Farmed Animals (England)" (part of our petition)
Hopefully a suitable law will be passed.
Thank you all for helping me with my cover. One way or another the book will be published.
If anyone has a moment could they please critique my new version of the poem for the book. It's in writing critique. Which version is more appropriate for 5-8 year old children. (Oh to write poetry like BlueAndGold)
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 19, 2020 14:49:20 GMT
I am sorry, as I said to you in our many emails, I was raised in a farming area, I knew many farmers and farm workers, and still live in a rural area, and watch many farm/county based things on TV, including about farm welfare, I have seen or heard nothing about what you say, apart perhaps from the dog breeding industry, which has recently been heavily stamped on. Over 30 years ago, perhaps, before laws and regulations were made. Media and animal welfare sites love shock horror stories when they come across them, but they are in a tiny minority, they just make 'good' news, and when found breaking laws and regulations, they are soon closed down. (I think the last two cases mentioned in the media was actually two farm employees being cruel to animals in two separate farms, not the farms actually being cruel.) As I have also said to you, some activists believe that anything other than 'free range' is cruel, but there's not enough space to give every animal a free range of fields, not to feed an ever growing population, who are also taking up the space.
Now, cruelty to humans around the world in general is a different matter entirely, and much worse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 16:16:14 GMT
Now, cruelty to humans around the world in general is a different matter entirely, and much worse.
Cruelty to both humans and animals is bad however "Acts of cruelty to animals are not mere indications of a minor personality flaw in the abuser; they are symptomatic of a deep mental disturbance. Research in psychology and criminology shows that people who commit acts of cruelty to animals don’t stop there—many of them move on to their fellow humans. “Murderers … very often start out by killing and torturing animals as kids,” says Robert K. Ressler, who developed profiles of serial killers for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)." I too live in a small Market Town and am surrounded by some very good farms. Yes we have good farms but we also have some very bad ones in the UK. We are not the worst counntry. " The increase in mega farms – which critics describe as “cruel and unnecessary” – is part of a 26% rise in intensive factory farming in six years, a shift that is transforming the British countryside."The Guardianwww.ciwf.org.uk/news/2017/07/interactive-map-exposes-uk-factory-farming-hotspotsAlso I must stress that I have never pushed veganism or vegetarianism and am not against the kind of farms that do not fall into the catogory of intensive farms or factory farms. Yes the world has too many people and they must be fed. Use the land where crops are grown to feed animals and reduce the number of animals kept for their meat. Use the freed-up land to grow food for humans instead. People need to eat less meat. Also I think that couples they should limit the number of children they bring into our world. Lets leave a decent planet for the next generation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:56:02 GMT
The cover looks perfect to me. I would lower your author name slightly. That is all. The rest is superb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:57:38 GMT
That's an idea Ron and Sphinx-Cameron, thanks. Then I only have to add 2 more letters. It did take a long time to do the title. I hand-drew the letters and the children on them. Then I scanned it in and painted the title. After that I made the cover. It took so long because I can only spend an hour on the computer a day with this kind of work. Otherwise I get back and shoulder pain. Don't overworry about the title or the cover. It's the content of your book that a publisher will be interested in. They may have their own ideas about the cover art and title. As I mentioned, the publisher of my next book changed the title (to one I like less, but, hey, they're paying for it). Added later: In case you wondered, my title was 200 Moons and Counting. The new title is Natural Satellites: The Book of Moons.I like your first title, Ron. Why would they change it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:59:35 GMT
Even though I'm sitting at home and doing what I can to end the atrocious factory farms, individually each one of us can play our part to end this terrible way of treating animals. I am not anti-farmer, I just want the animals that people eat to be treated properly by farmers, not stuffed into cages and crowded into rooms with concrete floors etc. Many of us make an individual effort, as I am trying to do with my book and articles and poems that have been published in newspapers. However we also work with others who feel as passionately as we do. Here is just one example of what we have achieved as a group. Kevin please note this is England we are talking about. You do seem to think that farm animals are treated well here, but that is not the case, millioms are mistreated. I signed this petition and we managed to get a debate in Parliament yesterday.(which I listened to) Many of our petitions result in debates with laws being passed. Hopefully a suitable law will be passed in this case. "Across the UK, millions of farmed animals are kept in cages, unable to express their natural behaviours. This causes huge suffering.
We call on the UK government to end this inhumane practice by banning all cages for farmed animals. Cages are cruel.
This cannot be the future of British farming.
We, the undersigned, call on the Secretary of State for the Environment Food and Rural Affairs to bring forward legislation that amends the Welfare of Farmed Animals (England)" (part of our petition) Hopefully a suitable law will be passed. Thank you all for helping me with my cover. One way or another the book will be published. If anyone has a moment could they please critique my new version of the poem for the book. It's in writing critique. Which version is more appropriate for 5-8 year old children. (Oh to write poetry like BlueAndGold) Larika, where is it? Can you start a new thread. Hard to find anything here with all this traffic. Which is a good thing. But.
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 19, 2020 18:04:02 GMT
Don't overworry about the title or the cover. It's the content of your book that a publisher will be interested in. They may have their own ideas about the cover art and title. As I mentioned, the publisher of my next book changed the title (to one I like less, but, hey, they're paying for it). Added later: In case you wondered, my title was 200 Moons and Counting. The new title is Natural Satellites: The Book of Moons.I like your first title, Ron. Why would they change it. Who knows?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 5:58:32 GMT
Larika, where is it? Can you start a new thread. Hard to find anything here with all this traffic. Which is a good thing. But.
I'm not sure what you are asking Maggie. If its my simpler poem, its as I said in writing critique. The rest of my comments are in response to what Kevin wrote in this section.
Thank you for your kind words about my cover I take your point about lowering my name I just didn't want to go too near the edge but you are right.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Mar 20, 2020 12:49:09 GMT
I think Maggie was asking for a link to the UK farm animal treatment issue.
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