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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jul 8, 2024 23:09:33 GMT
Have you heard about Neuralink's brain implant to enable a paraplegic to control the computer with his mind? FDA approved, it seems. I have heard about it, and it needs a lot more work. The FDA approval was for use on a second human patient as it is at the beginning of clinical trials--meaning the FDA approval is to see if it works well enough without killing the test subject(s). The technology isn't ready for wide use yet. |
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jul 8, 2024 23:14:04 GMT
I remember an occasion where I had to explain to my spouse someone we knew might be / is a psychopath. Boom, the news feed on my cell popped up an article about the common traits of psychopaths. I have to say it was coincidence or random chance, similar to being tight on money then finding $20 on the ground. It happens so often and to so many people that they even discussed it on mainstream media. What a huge coincidence. |
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jul 15, 2024 23:11:16 GMT
But it's not true AI is it, if it cannot look in to a mirror and recognise itself? Without it having any clue as to what it looks like. Then again, not many animals can do that anyway!
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jul 18, 2024 0:39:18 GMT
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jul 19, 2024 22:55:35 GMT
I expect a lot is to do with IQ, so in that list of animals I bet there are individuals that cannot. I notice vampire bats are not in the list.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jul 19, 2024 23:20:50 GMT
I expect a lot is to do with IQ, so in that list of animals I bet there are individuals that cannot. I notice vampire bats are not in the list. Part of the problem lies in the nature of the test. A blind human can't pass the mirror test, but does that mean the blind human is not self-aware? No.
Perhaps humans need to try measuring self-awareness and intelligence in a different manner, rather than trying to make other species fit an arbitrary human measurement.
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jul 20, 2024 23:24:26 GMT
I expect a lot is to do with IQ, so in that list of animals I bet there are individuals that cannot. I notice vampire bats are not in the list. Part of the problem lies in the nature of the test. A blind human can't pass the mirror test, but does that mean the blind human is not self-aware? No. But they can pass it in other ways. thisvsthat.io/sapient-vs-sentient
A cat may have the IQ of a 2-year-old to three-year-old human toddler, possibly a four-year-old, I have owned cats (or they have owned me!) I would dispute that. but because their vision works differently and they see the world in a different way they won't pass the test. www.businessinsider.com/pictures-of-how-cats-see-the-world-2013-10
I cannot use that link, there's a box insisting I open an account so I can read it. But that can be said of many things. Anyway cats.com/cat-self-awareness in a nut shell, it's not what they see, it's what they smell.
Perhaps humans need to try measuring self-awareness and intelligence in a different manner, rather than trying to make other species fit an arbitrary human measurement.
Such as? There has to be benchmarks, and we know more about our brains. But it's interesting that it's being discovered that animals are cleverer than we used to think. But is it not a case of continuing evolution? As their habitat shrinks, only the cleverest survive. |
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