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Post by ronmiller on Apr 30, 2020 1:41:00 GMT
Let LMB know next time she has a cover for you to do, while I may not be famous I am smart enough to trust your judgement on the cover art.
Then again I'm not that good of a writer so perhaps not...
Don't say that, Cameron. You are a great writer. I agree!
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Post by ronmiller on Apr 30, 2020 1:42:12 GMT
Don't say that, Cameron. You are a great writer. Mmmmh, as a writer merely adequate am I. Okay as a writer, per certain scales of measure. I've not heard back from the eldest of the litter about the raw unedited draft of my last novel, which does not bode well, per prior experience.
Ron on the other hand, is a great artist.
LMB would do well to allow Ron free rein.
We usually get along with the result being a happy compromise, but she really dug her heels in on this one.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 30, 2020 10:15:52 GMT
Don't say that, Cameron. You are a great writer. I agree! Perhaps when I can splurge on a new keyboard the writing will get better, since the one I'm using has been used and abused by the two youngest -- I had to swap my old one with one of theirs after keys started sticking after being beaten on by the youngest. The keys on this one stick, just not as badly.
Assessing my last work, I doubt "Twins from Different Worlds" will win any awards even if it is a slight bit different from the run of the mill. Your spouse would likely find the work a tad boring.
On the covers for LMB, she really should let you run with your instinct. While I get a writer having a preference on the visuals, as you've pointed out before they're often too close to the work and as such less objective.
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Post by ronmiller on Apr 30, 2020 12:06:08 GMT
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 30, 2020 12:31:18 GMT
I believe I have a few of those covers [still attached to the books] packed away until 1] the youngest quits ripping things up and 2] I can build some bookcases.
Kind of interesting to realize I've been a fan of your art for a long while [can we say many years] without realizing it.
Hopefully she won't dig her heels in on the next cover.
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Post by ronmiller on Apr 30, 2020 14:13:16 GMT
I believe I have a few of those covers [still attached to the books] packed away until 1] the youngest quits ripping things up and 2] I can build some bookcases.
Kind of interesting to realize I've been a fan of your art for a long while [can we say many years] without realizing it.
Hopefully she won't dig her heels in on the next cover.
Let's just don't say how many years!
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Post by ronmiller on Apr 30, 2020 14:21:47 GMT
I have known Lois for around 50 years. We were originally members of the same science fiction fan club in Columbus, Ohio. She eventually married a friend of mine and began writing a novel after having two children. She sent the results to a publisher. The book was not only accepted, she got a contract for the next five. She is now one of the best-selling science fiction authors in the country, with more Hugo awards than Arthur C. Clarke or Robert Heinlein.
What she has been doing in recent years is self-publishing novellas as ebooks through her agent before they appear between covers from her publishers. It's a pretty nice arrangement, I think! It's these ebooks that I have been doing the covers for (which also usually appear as the covers for the audio editions). This is why Lois has been personally involved in them.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 30, 2020 14:30:51 GMT
I think I started reading the Barrayar / Vorkosigan books a bit over twenty-odd years ago, perhaps longer though recollection is fuzzy since I had a lot going on back then.
Doing the ebooks before they hit hard copy is a good arrangement, but again [twere it me] I'd let you handle the covers with as little input as possible. I see it kind of like having to do a medical procedure, some things I likely can do for myself but I really don't want to do so because it's not only painful but because I'm also not a surgeon.
Kudos to LMB for the Hugo awards, as that's something out of my league.
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Post by ronmiller on May 4, 2020 14:28:47 GMT
The final cover for Lois' book is such an exercise in subjectivity that, while well-rendered, is not something that I am going to include in my portfolio.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on May 4, 2020 15:57:19 GMT
The final cover for Lois' book is such an exercise in subjectivity that, while well-rendered, is not something that I am going to include in my portfolio. Makes sense, and I say that having had more than a few projects that left me going, mmmkay.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 21:51:57 GMT
Here is a cover I just today completed for my friend Lois. View AttachmentIt was composed mainly of materials from my own files. The background is a photo taken in an Italian church. The floor was taken from an entirely different photo. The large blue figure is my wife. She also posed for the kneeling figure, though the face, parts of the arms and large parts of the costume were done mostly by hand. The prone figure was found in the Library of Congress photo collection (it was a wounded WWI soldier). His raised hand was added separately. I think this one is my favourite of all. Haunting and unnerving and soothing all at once.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 21:54:37 GMT
I just finished up a long-awaited and badly needed second edition of my first book. I wanted to spruce up the cover to distinguish it from the first edition but didn't have much free time to devote to it, nor do I have pictures of castle and horsemen and swords and such, so I put a little color into the mix and came up with this:
I think it is a little catchier than its predecessor.
I like it. It's more interesting than the previous one. It engages you more.
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Post by BlueAndGold on May 21, 2020 12:00:17 GMT
I wanted to approve distribution for the revision on April 27 but Lulu put their fingers in the light socket and now I feel like if I touch anything in my projects it will break them worse. I feel like I'm in becalmed in the Sargasso Sea with no wind in sight.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 15:13:47 GMT
I wanted to approve distribution for the revision on April 27 but Lulu put their fingers in the light socket and now I feel like if I touch anything in my projects it will break them worse. I feel like I'm in becalmed in the Sargasso Sea with no wind in sight. Don't do anything for now, even if it's torture. Just wait. I know, easier said than done. But.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 15:16:12 GMT
I wanted to approve distribution for the revision on April 27 but Lulu put their fingers in the light socket and now I feel like if I touch anything in my projects it will break them worse. I feel like I'm in becalmed in the Sargasso Sea with no wind in sight. I want to send a copy of my father's book to my sister, but I'm not even logging in. I don't want to mess the book up, it was so heavy a file that I do not want to have to reupload should I click on the wrong thing. I'm waiting two weeks then taking the plunge.
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