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Post by ronmiller on Aug 31, 2020 12:57:19 GMT
Here is another one. My books are on here. I contacted them and told them to remove them. They said that Ingrams had listed them there by permission of Lulu. Here is the site www.24symbols.com/ I was going to post the email but apparently I've deleted it. But I was told that members pay $8.99 a month to read all want. If your book gets read Ingram gets paid and you get paid supposedly. I just looked more closely they don't a copyright infringement contact at this site. So maybe it's legit. Clicking on this link gives a 404 message. Just click the green button in the middle to get there. I would think that any site that does not have copyright contact information would not be very legitimate. |
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Post by ronmiller on Aug 31, 2020 12:59:35 GMT
Are you saying you read books on a site that may not have permission to even have them?24 symbols is a legitimate site I checked it out. It seems that 24symbols.com is legit and safe to use and not a scam website. The review of 24symbols.com is positive. The positive trust score is based on an automated analysis of 40 different data sources we checked online such as the technology used, the location of the company, other websites found on the same web server, etcetera. Websites that score 80% or higher are in general safe to use with 100% being very safe. Still we strongly recommend to do your own vetting of each new website where you plan to shop or leave your contact details. There have been cases where criminals have bought highly reliable websites. You can use our article "How to recognize a scam website" to create your own opinion. (scamadviser) www.makeuseof.com/tag/go-reading-buffet-4-top-ebook-subscription-services-compared/ The disclaimer makes it sound as though the site is safe for the consumer, which it very well may be. This doesn't really address the issue of whether or not they are hosting books legally. |
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Post by ronmiller on Aug 31, 2020 13:18:44 GMT
Here is another one. My books are on here. I contacted them and told them to remove them. They said that Ingrams had listed them there by permission of Lulu. Here is the site www.24symbols.com/ I was going to post the email but apparently I've deleted it. But I was told that members pay $8.99 a month to read all want. If your book gets read Ingram gets paid and you get paid supposedly. I just looked more closely they don't a copyright infringement contact at this site. So maybe it's legit. Clicking on this link gives a 404 message. Just click the green button in the middle to get there. If the books are copyrighted in your name and you have not explicitly assigned those rights to anyone or have any sort of agreement or contract regarding distribution, than the appearance of your books on this site is not legitimate. For instance, my contracts with traditional publishes spell out exactly what the publisher can and cannot do. For instance, they might have the right to create electronic editions, audio books and foreign translations...but these rights are granted in the contract along with what the author's share of any proceeds might be. (And even then there is a time limit on how long the publisher can exercise those rights.) Any rights not in the contract remain with me. |
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 1, 2020 2:43:35 GMT
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 1, 2020 2:46:50 GMT
Are you saying you read books on a site that may not have permission to even have them?24 symbols is a legitimate site I checked it out. It seems that 24symbols.com is legit and safe to use and not a scam website. The review of 24symbols.com is positive. The positive trust score is based on an automated analysis of 40 different data sources we checked online such as the technology used, the location of the company, other websites found on the same web server, etcetera. Websites that score 80% or higher are in general safe to use with 100% being very safe. Still we strongly recommend to do your own vetting of each new website where you plan to shop or leave your contact details. There have been cases where criminals have bought highly reliable websites. You can use our article "How to recognize a scam website" to create your own opinion. (scamadviser) www.makeuseof.com/tag/go-reading-buffet-4-top-ebook-subscription-services-compared/ The disclaimer makes it sound as though the site is safe for the consumer, which it very well may be. This doesn't really address the issue of whether or not they are hosting books legally. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 3:16:55 GMT
Kevin, I noticed that Lulu is said to be the publisher so presumably you had one of their free ISBN numbers. The only way to test the site is to buy a monthly prescription and then read one of your own books and see if you receive any money. I would think you only get paid if someone chooses your book. I googled them and checked several sites and they do seem to be legit.
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Post by JesusNinja on Sept 1, 2020 22:55:53 GMT
Here is another one. My books are on here. I contacted them and told them to remove them. They said that Ingrams had listed them there by permission of Lulu. Here is the site www.24symbols.com/ I was going to post the email but apparently I've deleted it. But I was told that members pay $8.99 a month to read all want. If your book gets read Ingram gets paid and you get paid supposedly. I just looked more closely they don't a copyright infringement contact at this site. So maybe it's legit. Clicking on this link gives a 404 message. Just click the green button in the middle to get there. If the books are copyrighted in your name and you have not explicitly assigned those rights to anyone or have any sort of agreement or contract regarding distribution, than the appearance of your books on this site is not legitimate. For instance, my contracts with traditional publishes spell out exactly what the publisher can and cannot do. For instance, they might have the right to create electronic editions, audio books and foreign translations...but these rights are granted in the contract along with what the author's share of any proceeds might be. (And even then there is a time limit on how long the publisher can exercise those rights.) Any rights not in the contract remain with me. I've contacted Bookmate. I received an email from someone saying they would forward my email to the company and they would take appropriate action, whatever that is. I also contacted Libraryofbooks which seems to be like Bookmate. But haven't heard back yet. |
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 2, 2020 1:58:02 GMT
Kevin, I noticed that Lulu is said to be the publisher so presumably you had one of their free ISBN numbers. Indeed, but I don't see what that has to do with it. My copyright still holds, and Lulu do not make claim to the copyrights, so they say.
This is mine, and it's very clear
All world-wide rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced in any material form (including photocopying or storing it in any medium by electronic means and whether or not transiently or incidentally to some other use of this publication) without the written permission of the copyright owner.
All the characters in this book are fictitious, and any resemblance to actual persons or other beings and/or creatures, living or dead, undead or just ill, is purely coincidental.
No animals were harmed in the creation of this story.
The only way to test the site is to buy a monthly prescription and then read one of your own books and see if you receive any money.
There's no need. I simply ask them to remove them because they have not asked me if they can 'sell' them in such a fashion. I would think you only get paid if someone chooses your book. Indeed, but they have not negotiated a 'deal' with me. I think I will add the old-school bit to my copyright. Not to be hired out. That's what some sites are doing, but a few million books 'free' to read if you subscribe for $5 a month or whatever? Just what do the writers/publishers actually get paid? I googled them and checked several sites and they do seem to be legit. |
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