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Post by potet on Aug 31, 2020 21:51:41 GMT
I sometimes watch the Lulu University videos on YouTube. The way the young lady speaks is obviously meant to be friendly, but to someone like me whose mother tongue is French, and who was trained to understand and speak Oxbridgian English, I find her delivery sometimes vaguely unclear. Do native speakers of English on this forum clearly perceive what she says? I didn't use the full idiom (loud and clear) because the sound is quite good in terms of loudness.
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Post by Oxbridge on Aug 31, 2020 23:05:05 GMT
I do business with British, Canadian and New Yorkers. But I only understand the meaning of this American slang. As potet says: it's quite nice, but for my european conditioned ears, the accent and articulation are difficult to understand.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Sept 1, 2020 0:56:39 GMT
I have American ears and understand her quite clearly. She is a good speaker. However she is speaking like a young college girl who is hyped up on too much coffee to an audience of young college girls, likewise hyped. In other words, she is painfully FAST and SQUEAKY to my ears. I have to listen fast to keep the connection clear. I suppose this can be beneficial as far as making the audience stay alert to stay engaged, or for cramming the most information into the fewest minutes; but I find it just a little too much like listening to a glee club leader trying to fan her followers into a frenzied frolic. It is draining to sit through an entire 7-minute video. I've never managed to finish one. But yes, my American ears hear her just fine.
Maybe I'm too old? No, maybe she's too young.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 1, 2020 2:33:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 3:37:59 GMT
I have American ears and understand her quite clearly. She is a good speaker. However she is speaking like a young college girl who is hyped up on too much coffee to an audience of young college girls, likewise hyped. In other words, she is painfully FAST and SQUEAKY to my ears. I have to listen fast to keep the connection clear. I suppose this can be beneficial as far as making the audience stay alert to stay engaged, or for cramming the most information into the fewest minutes; but I find it just a little too much like listening to a glee club leader trying to fan her followers into a frenzied frolic. It is draining to sit through an entire 7-minute video. I've never managed to finish one. But yes, my American ears hear her just fine.
Maybe I'm too old? No, maybe she's too young. I can understand her, but I can see how some people whose first language is not English would have difficulty comprehending what she is saying. She is also over=enthusiastic, so I agree with BlueAndGold it is difficult to listen to her for an entire video.
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Post by sirram on Sept 1, 2020 9:28:05 GMT
I hadn't come across these videos, so just watched one. The speaker is presentable (good) and enthusiastic (good) but she speaks very quickly (bad) and does have a rather high-pitched voice (bad), which I'm afraid I tired of fairly quickly.
She also tends not to fully pronounce the ends of her words. So, in the clip I watched, she pronounced "font" as "fon". When she was gabbling along, I had to replay some section to pick up all the words.
We have similar problems in the UK. A BBC reporter was talking about a "GP's truss". [GP = Doctor] After a while, I realised he meant "GPs' Trust". We also get "sayne" instead of "saying", "hospitaw" instead of "hospital", and so on.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 2, 2020 2:09:02 GMT
Golly! If Lulu see that I am sure they will pass it on to their lawyers. It is utter BS. Well, it was in 2018 when that was written! Oh, and the only reviews I can find about magloft are on their own site ...
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 2, 2020 2:10:28 GMT
Perhaps Lulu recruited her from a shopping channel?
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Post by tasmanianartistNotLoggedIn on Sept 2, 2020 2:29:27 GMT
squeaky high voices - yuk - we have a supermarket chain and their TV ads make my skin crawl - uber-perky-clause, squeaky tizzy screaching voice with intensified up and down inflection - oh, dear gods of the Universe, make it go away - switch off time after the first two words of squeak on anything for me. I did go to the site larika cited - goodness, they are diggin in their claws. I can understand it. After Lulu simply tossing away 13 of my photo albums / coffee table books, I turned my back on them, and just keep my personal cookbook, and 2 experimental works with them - private.
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Post by JesusNinja on Sept 2, 2020 5:00:55 GMT
If it's who I think it is, she's been on a few live streams with Dalepublishing live on youtube. He was about to do a Lulu promoting when the crap hit the fan on the site. She called him and told him not to run it. She was panicking to say the least. She's smart and speaks well, although I'm not a big fan of nose rings. Too distracting.
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Post by potet on Sept 2, 2020 11:02:11 GMT
Thanks a lot to you all. The finely detailed analyses aptly describe her performance, and explain why I am uncomfortable when I watch her videos. BTW I attended some international conferences in my life, and don't remember any of my U.S. colleagues speaking like her. They all spoke perfectly clear American English. I don't know if Lulu has versions of these videos in other languages. As a bilingual I just take the English one, that obviously would be released first, and never bother to look for a possible French video.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 2, 2020 15:32:13 GMT
If it's who I think it is, she's been on a few live streams with Dalepublishing live on youtube. He was about to do a Lulu promoting when the crap hit the fan on the site. She called him and told him not to run it. She was panicking to say the least. She's smart and speaks well, although I'm not a big fan of nose rings. Too distracting. They look fine on a bull, and serve a purpose. Are humans who have nose rings inviting to be pulled along by them? Tethered to a barn wall?
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 2, 2020 15:34:58 GMT
One problem as you get older is the loss of hearing certain frequencies. Perhaps some people who appear to not end their words, or seem to not pronounce them clearly, may be doing, we just don't hear them?
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Post by potet on Sept 2, 2020 16:51:15 GMT
One problem as you get older is the loss of hearing certain frequencies. Perhaps some people who appear to not end their words, or seem to not pronounce them clearly, may be doing, we just don't hear them? This is the reason why professional stage actors and actresses are trained to be audible by audiences of all ages.
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