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Post by ronmiller on Aug 25, 2020 15:38:58 GMT
Good point about the time scale. I had never thought about it consciously or dissected it, but I know that I do use such a thing when I write. I hear the conversation in my head and use commas, semicolons, colons, periods, and dashes to indicate the lengths of pauses - subconsciously, I suppose. It works for me when I read it. I hope it works for others too. It's the way I was taught and have emulated my whole life. One of the things I use punctuation for---especially semicolons, em dashes and ellipses---is pacing. That being said, I also try to use punctuation correctly. For instance, I may use dashes, etc. within someone's speech, but the punctuation outside that quote will be correct. For instance: "But-but-but!" she stammered, then added, "That's the...well...craziest thing I ever heard!"
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Aug 26, 2020 0:22:14 GMT
Well, to me, and many have said it before, David LODGE is a master of the English language, and his style is so clear that this author is considered a modern classic. Perhaps you misunderstood what I said. LODGE does use quotation marks for his dialogues in direct speech. His resorting to the run-on dialogue in some passages is a stylistic effect that recalls the stream of consciousness technique to a certain extent. I was just mentioning this because obviously you had never heard of such a possibility. Also I am surprised some of you do not know how to use quotation marks and the punctuation that goes with them. Just open any well-written novel, and you'll find in it all the answers. I am not sure just who you are replying to there.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Aug 26, 2020 0:43:55 GMT
Punctuation is not written in law, it's simply tradition, and here's one definition of that word >> an artistic or literary method or style established by an artist, writer, or movement, and subsequently followed by others.
Going off the beaten track a bit. In my many jobs I have often done Method/Workstudy and am trained in it. Very simplified, a small part of it, is the study of working practices. The Who What When, etc. And to work out if it can be done better, or in fact if it needs to be done at all if a product is altered. The majority of tasks were done because that's how they had been shown, so that's how they do it. A lot was simply tradition. "We have always done it like this." Now one of the main problems when working out a more efficient and cost effective way and getting people to do it was, that tradition. It was very hard to break people out of it. Even strikes have been caused because of it. Hence robots taking over most manufacturing tasks no doubt. Far easier to program than a human!
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Aug 27, 2020 0:10:39 GMT
That's very interesting because it shows how bits came about, and even changed very often. Butit'sastonishingthattheGreeksdidnotevenusespacesImeanWTF!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 8:22:42 GMT
That's very interesting because it shows how bits came about, and even changed very often. Butit'sastonishingthattheGreeksdidnotevenusespacesImeanWTF! But what's astonishing is thatwecanread it. Even if you leave letters out or scramble the order we are able to read it. "Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe." www.dictionary.com/e/typoglyceen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typoglycemia
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Aug 27, 2020 18:01:31 GMT
There's an IQ test often used at job interviews. A range of sentences with letters progressively missing, to see what you were still able to read.
I have often wondered, being partly dyslexic myself, is those who suffer from it were marked low in English (which I actually was not) not because they could not read it, but could not write it. I thank who ever invented the first electronic typewriters for being able to at least type understandable text. (I had one that 'typed' in to a 10 word LCD slot before you opted to print it). When I write the old way I have to use block capitals otherwise I cannot even read my own writing!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 8:12:12 GMT
There's an IQ test often used at job interviews. A range of sentences with letters progressively missing, to see what you were still able to read. I have often wondered, being partly dyslexic myself, is those who suffer from it were marked low in English (which I actually was not) not because they could not read it, but could not write it. I thank who ever invented the first electronic typewriters for being able to at least type understandable text. (I had one that 'typed' in to a 10 word LCD slot before you opted to print it). When I write the old way I have to use block capitals otherwise I cannot even read my own writing! So Kevin you were partly dyslexic! "Nonetheless, children and adults with mild dyslexia tend to have a harder time manipulating the sounds in words, including rhyming words. Spelling ability might be below average and reading will often take them more time." www.readandspell.com/mild-dyslexMy niece, like you, is partly dyslexic. She is highly intelligent, but she had a very difficult time at school. She does have more difficulty with her writing. It's so annoying when people think she is unintelligent because of her learning disorder. Reading and writing are so important in school and it's hard for youngsters on the dyslexia spectrum.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Aug 29, 2020 0:37:42 GMT
There's an IQ test often used at job interviews. A range of sentences with letters progressively missing, to see what you were still able to read. I have often wondered, being partly dyslexic myself, is those who suffer from it were marked low in English (which I actually was not) not because they could not read it, but could not write it. I thank who ever invented the first electronic typewriters for being able to at least type understandable text. (I had one that 'typed' in to a 10 word LCD slot before you opted to print it). When I write the old way I have to use block capitals otherwise I cannot even read my own writing! So Kevin you were partly dyslexic! "Nonetheless, children and adults with mild dyslexia tend to have a harder time manipulating the sounds in words, including rhyming words. Spelling ability might be below average and reading will often take them more time." www.readandspell.com/mild-dyslexMy niece, like you, is partly dyslexic. She is highly intelligent, but she had a very difficult time at school. She does have more difficulty with her writing. It's so annoying when people think she is unintelligent because of her learning disorder. Reading and writing are so important in school and it's hard for youngsters on the dyslexia spectrum. Hrmm, there's possibly more to it than that generalisation. I have always had trouble with spelling. Apparently there are rules to do with word composition that I could never remember. The same with maths. I could never recall the formulas and whatnot. I am not good learning repetitive parrot-fashion, which when at primary school that's what they seemed to rely on. I have no problem with sounds in words and I can read fast.
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