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Post by BlueAndGold on Jan 17, 2021 15:39:29 GMT
Just toying with a sleepy thought before the Earl Gray kicks in...
Suppose someone had printed versions of a book with Lulu ISBN's. And suppose someone wanted to do a Kindle version of the book. This would be a straight-forward process resulting in an Amazon ISBN for the Kindle version, correct? With no effect on the Lulu / Amazon distribution of the printed forms and ISBN's?
Afterthought: Amazon would probably not distribute the Kindle version to other outlets, would they?
Should I have more caffeine before I ask these obvious questions on a Sunday morning?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 15:59:24 GMT
Just toying with a sleepy thought before the Earl Gray kicks in...
Suppose someone had printed versions of a book with Lulu ISBN's. And suppose someone wanted to do a Kindle version of the book. This would be a straight-forward process resulting in an Amazon ISBN for the Kindle version, correct? With no effect on the Lulu / Amazon distribution of the printed forms and ISBN's?
Afterthought: Amazon would probably not distribute the Kindle version to other outlets, would they?
Should I have more caffeine before I ask these obvious questions on a Sunday morning?
Good, you're going to do it. If you don't already have ebooks on Lulu, you have no obstacle. Just write Print Book next to the Lulu-issued ISBN or Print Book Edition. Give your poetry a style before you convert to epub. Highlight, right-click, create new style. Don't recall exact terminology. I don't think Kindle will distribute to competitors. Streetlib, however... |
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Post by benziger on Jan 17, 2021 16:08:46 GMT
In this case: printed book with Lulu ISBN e-book with Amazon ISBN |
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Post by Ken on Jan 17, 2021 16:30:30 GMT
If you wish to produce an eBook to sell thro Amazon it has to be in the Kindle Format 8 (KF8) and with its own ISBN.
You cannot use the same ISBN for different formats.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Jan 17, 2021 16:45:26 GMT
Thank you. That's what I thought.
Last night's stout lingering; overcast sky (not common).
Chocolate kicking in now.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Jan 17, 2021 16:52:54 GMT
Just toying with a sleepy thought before the Earl Gray kicks in...
Suppose someone had printed versions of a book with Lulu ISBN's. And suppose someone wanted to do a Kindle version of the book. This would be a straight-forward process resulting in an Amazon ISBN for the Kindle version, correct? With no effect on the Lulu / Amazon distribution of the printed forms and ISBN's?
Afterthought: Amazon would probably not distribute the Kindle version to other outlets, would they?
Should I have more caffeine before I ask these obvious questions on a Sunday morning?
Good, you're going to do it. If you don't already have ebooks on Lulu, you have no obstacle. Just write Print Book next to the Lulu-issued ISBN or Print Book Edition. Give your poetry a style before you convert to epub. Highlight, right-click, create new style. Don't recall exact terminology. I don't think Kindle will distribute to competitors. Streetlib, however...
Not. Just ruminating.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jan 17, 2021 17:19:47 GMT
Good, you're going to do it. If you don't already have ebooks on Lulu, you have no obstacle. Just write Print Book next to the Lulu-issued ISBN or Print Book Edition. Give your poetry a style before you convert to epub. Highlight, right-click, create new style. Don't recall exact terminology. I don't think Kindle will distribute to competitors. Streetlib, however...
Not. Just ruminating.
You can distribute print books through KDP, but your best bet is to list the KDP version only on Amazon and its alter egos in different countries after releasing the same print for other distribution through Ingram.
You'd also need to not distribute the Lulu Press version to Amazon or Ingram at the same time since Lulu Press would likely close your account.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Jan 17, 2021 18:09:25 GMT
No. Lulu's print books are fine and seem to be of the best quality. (Don't EVER buy a hardback through Barnes&Noble - they just glue a cardboard cover to a paperback binding. Infuriating!)
I am curious about making an E-Book (Kindle) version of a Lulu print book. (NOT Lulu E-pub, which has no purpose in the world, as far as I can determine.) |
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Post by Ken on Jan 17, 2021 18:24:53 GMT
(NOT Lulu E-pub, which has no purpose in the world, as far as I can determine.)
Why do you say that?
Different formats, different readers, different audiences.
Kindle cheap and cheerful.
But if that’s what you want then format in one of the Kindle formats. KD8 to future proof.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 18:44:33 GMT
No. Lulu's print books are fine and seem to be of the best quality. (Don't EVER buy a hardback through Barnes&Noble - they just glue a cardboard cover to a paperback binding. Infuriating!)
I am curious about making an E-Book (Kindle) version of a Lulu print book. (NOT Lulu E-pub, which has no purpose in the world, as far as I can determine.) Make an epub, which is universal. KDP converts it beautifully. In fact, they prefer it. And then you can use that same epub for other distributors - when you are ready. |
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Post by BlueAndGold on Jan 18, 2021 0:38:09 GMT
I have nothing that will read an EPUB. When I buy one I have to convert it into PDF or MOBI to read it on my computer or my Android, respectively. And no, I'm not interested in loading an application on my computer to view a book I would never read on my computer. The computer does not fit on my tummy on the couch. I have no idea who or what in the world uses EPUB other than Lulu, and Lulu seems to be the last place in the world anyone would care to look for books anyway, other than a Lulu author. Has anyone other the self-publishing world ever even heard of Lulu? No. Not in my experience. But everyone has heard of Amazon. Furthermore, if it is that easy to convert an EPUB into a PDF and pirate it at will, I have no interest in publishing with it. Granted, I am fairly ignorant of the E-reader technology and very slow to warm up to it. (I likely never will.) Paper books are straightforward and honest.
EDIT: OK, I did some reading. EPUB is simply html zipped up as an archive file. OK. So it's the standard. My bad. Still don't trust it. But regardless, at this point, I simply want to put a single book into a MOBI format to go on ONE person's ancient Kindle. The person can no longer see a printed book or even a 32" computer screen with humongous font, but miraculously CAN read that silly old Kindle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 1:46:17 GMT
I have nothing that will read an EPUB. When I buy one I have to convert it into PDF or MOBI to read it on my computer or my Android, respectively. And no, I'm not interested in loading an application on my computer to view a book I would never read on my computer. The computer does not fit on my tummy on the couch. I have no idea who or what in the world uses EPUB other than Lulu, and Lulu seems to be the last place in the world anyone would care to look for books anyway, other than a Lulu author. Has anyone other the self-publishing world ever even heard of Lulu? No. Not in my experience. But everyone has heard of Amazon. Furthermore, if it is that easy to convert an EPUB into a PDF and pirate it at will, I have no interest in publishing with it. Granted, I am fairly ignorant of the E-reader technology and very slow to warm up to it. (I likely never will.) Paper books are straightforward and honest.
EDIT: OK, I did some reading. EPUB is simply html zipped up as an archive file. OK. So it's the standard. My bad. Still don't trust it. But regardless, at this point, I simply want to put a single book into a MOBI format to go on ONE person's ancient Kindle. The person can no longer see a printed book or even a 32" computer screen with humongous font, but miraculously CAN read that silly old Kindle.
Reasily is a free application. You can use it to read or view epubs. No one will pirate the one epub you create on your computer for the purposes of uploading it to KDP or anywhere else. KDP uses epubs as well. They just created their own extension so they sound exclusive. Epubs are the core of all ebooks. But, they cannot easily be converted into A PDF, without there being a mess. PDFs can more easily be converted to epub, again, with a unattractive result. It took me years before I gave into making an ebook, for the same reasons as yourself. Then I gave in. Best thing I ever did. Millions of people around the world have no money for shipping, but they want to read your book. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 4:32:50 GMT
It took me years before I gave into making an ebook, for the same reasons as yourself. Then I gave in. Best thing I ever did. Millions of people around the world have no money for shipping, but they want to read your book.
I agree Mag2024. Many people around the world would buy BlueAndGold's very good poetry in ebook format. BlueAndGold, I hope you decide to make an ebook of your work and make it available to the public. I (like the person you know.) have great difficulty with printed books (much as I prefer them) and have to manage with"that silly old kindle."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 8:49:06 GMT
It took me years before I gave into making an ebook, for the same reasons as yourself. Then I gave in. Best thing I ever did. Millions of people around the world have no money for shipping, but they want to read your book.
I agree Mag2024. Many people around the world would buy BlueAndGold's very good poetry in ebook format. BlueAndGold, I hope you decide to make an ebook of your work and make it available to the public. I (like the person you know.) have great difficulty with printed books (much as I prefer them) and have to manage with"that silly old kindle." I been waitin' a little a long time for that book. I'm in a country mood this rainy homesick morning. 😊 With the internet dropping every three seconds. 🤪 |
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Post by Ken on Jan 18, 2021 11:24:38 GMT
I must take issue with some of the points raised here.
ePub is not universal.
There are different published standards for ePubs. There are different published standards for ebooks for Kindle readers.
Yes, one can knock up a cheap and nasty ePub that may be used in different ways but for best results an ePub should be designed for specific eBook readers and tested on the same.
I doubt if more than a few here bother testing their products on more than one device.
When I first started designing and creating eBooks I invested in the purchase of different devices. So on my desk I different versions of Kindles, Nooks, iPads and iPhones as well as PCS and Macs. Testing on all is important to ensure readability and as much effort is required as it is for print editions.
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