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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 18:08:32 GMT
At the moment there is no cost associated with using it I notice that Canva have 3 levels. Free, Pro and Enterprise and Lulu uses the free level. I checked out what Canva offers for free and it seems quite good. I still haven't ruled out Lulu for my third print book in my Stolen series Ken, but I'll make the ebook in Draft2Digital.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 4:17:32 GMT
Example using the Lulu Quick Template Cover.
The only good thing about the LQTC is that it's quick.
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 6, 2021 14:44:55 GMT
Example using the Lulu Quick Template Cover. The only good thing about the LQTC is that it's quick. I agree.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 6, 2021 19:00:02 GMT
A check of contrast with the example would tend to indicate why quick isn't always great.
My vision is pretty good but I had squint on the color version.
Whether a cover is in color or black and white you don't want a prospective reader having difficulty reading the title.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 4:14:47 GMT
I remember Ron saying that the black and white test was a good one Cameron lulu.boards.net/thread/432/good-test As far as the instant covers go Ken , all four of them are so limiting. Also I don't like those solid bars they seem to love. You've got a black one at the bottom of your cover.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 7, 2021 12:25:58 GMT
Well I don’t have, a problem with that but that’s a personal opinion. I’ve a feeling that there is a little confusion and perhaps unnecessary criticism in parts by some as the purpose of the thread was to discuss the three options available to Lulu’ers in making their own book covers. I was certainly not promoting one above any other, they each have their merits. The samples shown above are very simple low res screen captures of preview screens, they are in no way representative of the quality of the final PDF and the printed product. It's critique rather than criticism. If you realize the samples you're using are low resolution and you're essentially trying to convince people about the efficacy of a product or service, it tends to go better when you utilize the best examples you can.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 14:55:55 GMT
Ken Perhaps if you'd given examples of all of the cover-options and explained that you wern't applauding them, just telling us what was available, the responses may have been different. I think some members would have appreciated the information about the updated options. Maybe your actions were misunderstood as you have stated that many here are being too critical of Lulu. "Putting aside the subject of “cover templates” for the time being, and hopefully for a more detailed discussion I’m really pleased to hear that someone has taken a detailed look at the new site. I’m getting fed up of logging into this group and hearing nothing but moans about the “new site.”
I also over recent days have examined each step and part of the new Lulu Web Site and my conclusion is that it is extremely well designed. I have created six different books of various layouts to check the functionality of each, all straightforwardly and without problem." Ken
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Post by ronmiller on Mar 10, 2021 13:08:33 GMT
Well I don’t have, a problem with that but that’s a personal opinion. I’ve a feeling that there is a little confusion and perhaps unnecessary criticism in parts by some as the purpose of the thread was to discuss the three options available to Lulu’ers in making their own book covers. I was certainly not promoting one above any other, they each have their merits. The samples shown above are very simple low res screen captures of preview screens, they are in no way representative of the quality of the final PDF and the printed product. It's critique rather than criticism. If you realize the samples you're using are low resolution and you're essentially trying to convince people about the efficacy of a product or service, it tends to go better when you utilize the best examples you can. Since low-resolution at a small size is how most people may first see a book cover---on a website, for instance---it's worthwhile checking it out under those conditions. Cameron's criticism may have been off-topic, but it might still be of value.
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Post by Ken on Mar 10, 2021 16:02:10 GMT
It's critique rather than criticism. If you realize the samples you're using are low resolution and you're essentially trying to convince people about the efficacy of a product or service, it tends to go better when you utilize the best examples you can. Since low-resolution at a small size is how most people may first see a book cover---on a website, for instance---it's worthwhile checking it out under those conditions. Cameron's criticism may have been off-topic, but it might still be of value. The whole point of the original thread was to discuss the current cover design options. The examples I used were merely to show the typical layouts that could be obtained with the three quick cover options. At no stage were they intended to be representative of what potential buyers might see. If I was creating a layout to actually use on a real book I would have obviously produced a properly finished product. I do wonder if it’s worth the time and effort to post something for the benefit of the whole community.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 10, 2021 17:02:31 GMT
Since low-resolution at a small size is how most people may first see a book cover---on a website, for instance---it's worthwhile checking it out under those conditions. Cameron's criticism may have been off-topic, but it might still be of value. The whole point of the original thread was to discuss the current cover design options. The examples I used were merely to show the typical layouts that could be obtained with the three quick cover options. At no stage were they intended to be representative of what potential buyers might see. If I was creating a layout to actually use on a real book I would have obviously produced a properly finished product. I do wonder if it’s worth the time and effort to post something for the benefit of the whole community. It is worth the time and effort, and people appreciate your time and effort.
If I appear overly critical, it's because of the many hours I spent in the past producing user guides or documentation where every detail had to be as close to perfect as possible in every aspect the moment it fell into other peoples' hands.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 10, 2021 19:23:21 GMT
You’re missing the point. I had no intention of producing a professional guide but just a relatively simple intro or guide. I too used to create professional documentation for highly technical and state of the art technology for which I was recognized and rewarded by my peers, a world away from here. I actually got your point, while also recognizing you have functioned professionally. The only peer of sorts I directly worked with, who recognized my work, was when I left my last paid-professional post: "The quality of your work performance is going to be hard to follow."
"The simple things are always hard." Sometimes quick and simple guides leave the end-users perplexed. The art lies in making something rather complex appear simple when broken down into component tasks.
Now back to my primary duty station, riding herd on their Graces.
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