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Post by potet on Mar 4, 2021 12:57:52 GMT
Although EA didn't allow me to use my The Sims screen captures in a commercial photo-novel, the experiment continues as a private one with friends and relatives The results are interesting. Graduates have never had problems reading my books, and consider my two photo-novels of about 100 pages each as merely pleasant entertainment, but nothing else. The other members of my circle only have an elementary education. My didactic books are beyond their ken. They have no problem reading my travel books ( Concombre), but they don't like to read my sitcom because it's a collection of run-on dialogues, and they have problems visualizing the characters so that they give up after a couple of episodes. They all agree that the pictures of the photo-novels make it very easy for them to visualize what the text tells.  so that they find this popular form of literature far more superior to standard novels even when in some pages there is a long dialogue and the illustrations are reduced to a minimum.  In conclusion, the average person is deprived of the imagination necessary to visualize characters, what they do and their environment. They need a visual support. A play or a film is the ideal 'literary form' because they show everything for the spectator to follow the story. In the field of written literature, it appears the photo-novel is the ideal form for such a low-brow readership. In Japan, this demand is met by mangas. Perhaps, in the rest of the world, whenever possible, there should be photo-novel adaptations of all the classic novels. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 15:18:53 GMT
Many of the great classics have been made into graphic novels potet . There are lots of graphic Dickens and Shakespere and according to Marvel comics, "Just because it is 200 year old romantic literature doesn’t mean it can’t be represented in a graphic novel. Recently, Marvel Comics put out several graphic novels Austen Meets Marvel Comics." Here are some classic graphic works The Comic Strip "Odyssey"by Diane Redmond The Aeneid: Graphic (Classic Fiction) Paperback – Illustrated, 1 July 2018 by Diego Agrimbau (Author) Introducing Plato: A Graphic Guide Paperback – Illustrated, 4 Nov. 2010 by Dave Robinson (Author), Judy Groves (Illustrator) Graphic Lysistrata, by Ralf Konig, 1992. Here's a cover of a graphic Aristophanes comedy. I wonder if he'd like it. Maybe a photo-novel adaption of the classics would be a better idea.  |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 4, 2021 16:04:05 GMT
One consideration regarding an individual's ability to visualize a character from what is written is training, as in how someone is taught to read.
In dealing with children who have more Neanderthal genes than the average person, I've found the techniques they are taught when they're learning how to read has a direct correlation on their ability to visualize the characters and analyze / comprehend what is going on. In essence a person of average intellect is capable of visualizing from the written word, what is required for that to happen is good training in how to read.
An individual needing visual support would tend to be more indicative of either a learning disability and / or a flawed teaching environment rather than necessarily meaning lower intelligence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:52:27 GMT
I remember that on one of my teacher training courses, I was teaching youngsters about Joan of Arc. i spent a long time listening to their imaginative re-creations of what Joan was like. My professor, who had come to see how i was doing, did not appreciate my approach and later told me not to spend so much time trying to see if the children could visualise historical characters. "Just show them a picture," he said.  |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 4, 2021 18:05:13 GMT
I remember that on one of my teacher training courses, I was teaching youngsters about Joan of Arc. i spent a long time listening to their imaginative re-creations of what Joan was like. My professor, who had come to see how i was doing, did not appreciate my approach and later told me not to spend so much time trying to see if the children could visualise historical characters. "Just show them a picture," he said. The more children try to visualize something the more they practice a skill -- showing a children a picture might be quicker but it also doesn't help develop a useful skill.
Pictures can also not offer enough information.
Can you tell me what species these individuals belong to?
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Post by potet on Mar 4, 2021 20:55:13 GMT
An individual needing visual support would tend to be more indicative of either a learning disability and / or a flawed teaching environment rather than necessarily meaning lower intelligence. Certainly, and they may have been handicapped in their studies by this inability. You probably know that some persons cannot visualize geometric solids in the space of their minds. This makes solid geometry very difficult for them as they can only rely on their mathematical reasoning. |
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Post by potet on Mar 4, 2021 20:58:20 GMT
Indeed, Larika. Thanks.
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Post by potet on Mar 4, 2021 21:04:02 GMT
Cameron, could these be the reconstitutions of prehistoric youths from the remnants of their skeletons?
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 4, 2021 22:51:33 GMT
An individual needing visual support would tend to be more indicative of either a learning disability and / or a flawed teaching environment rather than necessarily meaning lower intelligence. Certainly, and they may have been handicapped in their studies by this inability. You probably know that some persons cannot visualize geometric solids in the space of their minds. This makes solid geometry very difficult for them as they can only rely on their mathematical reasoning. I can see a flat shape with fold lines indicated, fold it mentally, and at least 90% of the time correctly identify the shape, but I don't do well with mathematics like geometry, trigonometry, or calculus. I began reading when I was a four-year-old.
In my case it was a succession of flawed teaching environments affecting my mathematical reasoning.
Another issue with education is children develop different skills at different rates, yet in the US at least many children who don't develop accorded to accepted norms are often pigeon-holed as mentally deficient even when they're not, they're simply developing and ready for certain skills on a different time schedule.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 4, 2021 22:52:31 GMT
Cameron, could these be the reconstitutions of prehistoric youths from the remnants of their skeletons? They would indeed. Can you identify which flavor of genus Homo they were from? |
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Post by benziger on Mar 5, 2021 11:33:07 GMT
That is a well-known fact: - the more you read to the children and tell them stories (if necessary listening to the radio or cassettes (and their successors)), the better they can imagine it - Picture books with static pictures are also good, because you have to imagine the movement, the before and after in your imagination. Moving pictures, on the other hand, kill the imagination. It is no coincidence that media experts and educationalists say that children under the age of 3 should not be in front of a screen, that children of pre-school age should only be in front of a screen for 20 minutes at the most - and certainly not every day.
In primary school, at most one hour per day (that includes working time at School!). So say the brain researchers and the learning researchers.
Of course, I know that the reality in many families is quite different, that many parents already put the telephone in the hand of their children in the pram to keep them quiet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 13:15:46 GMT
My grandchild used her mother's smart phone when she was very,very young. Today she's a whiz on the computer. However she also has a vivid imagination and can visualise characters. My niece, however, was placed in front of the TV, by her mother, to stop her crying and Sarah found school work very difficult. She needed extra help. I wonder if all those hours in front of the TV adversely effected her.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 5, 2021 13:55:38 GMT
My grandchild used her mother's smart phone when she was very,very young. Today she's a whiz on the computer. However she also has a vivid imagination and can visualise characters. My niece, however, was placed in front of the TV, by her mother, to stop her crying and Sarah found school work very difficult. She needed extra help. I wonder if all those hours in front of the TV adversely effected her. It kind of depends on a few different factors. If a child is only watching cartoons or soap operas it will make learning harder while school environment and genetics also play a role.
Our three-year-old watches educational videos [learning shapes, colors, English, and so on], he also likes to paint [with tempera], and so on. The four-and-three-quarter-year-old likes to compete as being the baby while also trying to do first grade work. Our seven-year-old gets bored with the repetition of sight words until she writes one of her stories and I edit it, then she sees the importance of setting basic words to memory.
Education is a balancing act where adults need to temper their expectations with reality as there isn't a one-size-fits-all methodology. You can have a child who is gifted and talented but not quite ready for a particular activity or they're ready for a more advanced level and if the teachers don't see what the issue is the child [at least in the US] will get labeled. Back in the early 60s one of my brothers was consistently staring out the window during class and the teacher thought he was "retarded". When he was placed in an advanced class with more challenging work he started paying attention and doing the work.
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Post by potet on Mar 5, 2021 19:02:56 GMT
Cameron, could these be the reconstitutions of prehistoric youths from the remnants of their skeletons? They would indeed. Can you identify which flavor of genus Homo they were from? No, I can't. Apparently Celts, hence from a vast area that runs from Eastern Europe to perhaps the Maghreb. |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 5, 2021 19:58:23 GMT
They would indeed. Can you identify which flavor of genus Homo they were from? No, I can't. Apparently Celts, hence from a vast area that runs from Eastern Europe to perhaps the Maghreb. You're off by more than a few thousand years, though in a sense H neanderthalensis might qualify as Celts due to part of their one time geographical range. |
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