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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2019 10:00:37 GMT
In May 2018, benziger suggested: Small sized books have to have 32, 48 or 84 pages at least. Only big sized books are available with only a few pages. While a roman has often hundreds of pages, children books and booklets have often only a few pages. That is why I would like to suggest, that the smaller sizes are also available from 20 or 24, maybe 16 pages. Just as a reminder: With over 2000 different titles in a total circulation of 500 million copies in 60 years, not only in German, but also in English, Danish, French, Chinese, Arabic, Albanian, Dutch, etc., Pixi books (Carlsen Verlag) are probably among the most successful children's books. The equipment: 10x10cm = 4x4 inches, usually 24 pages, bound with staples. That would be my dream format: Well-established, well-known, inexpensive and handy. You find the original post here: connect.lulu.com/en/discussion/352769/smaller-books-like-pixi-f-eg#latestThis is just an exemple of a suggestion for other sizes at lulu.com
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Post by benziger on Apr 5, 2020 12:23:30 GMT
I am looking for a print on demand supplier who offers small square books. Everyone I know has square books only as large illustrated books. But small square books, e.g. 10x10cm or 11x11 or 12x12 (4x4", 5x5")? In the book stores, I see them all the times as small children booklets for 1.00-3.00.
Someone told me about blurb.com and yes! they have 13x13cm books. The size is only available if you do the upload by your mobile phone. And don't look the pricing: I didn't believe it, but unfortunatly it's the truth. In POD I cannot sell this kind of booklets for 1-2$, of course not, but for >12$ (25$ including shipping) there will be no buyers.
So, I am still looking for a POD service with small square sized books... (when I see the number of editors and books sold, I do not really understand, why Lulu and others do not offer such a size)
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Post by ronmiller on Apr 5, 2020 13:12:35 GMT
250 copies of a full-color traditionally printed book of that size (20 13x13 cm saddle-stitched pages) would be $3.24 each from Printninja. (The actual price depends on a few variables---such as choice of cover stock, etc.---that I just guessed at.) The unit price goes down, of course, as the number printed increases (which is why traditional publishers can sell similar books so cheaply: they are printed in very large numbers). Of course, you would have to distribute the books yourself to bookstores, online retailers and individuals.
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Post by benziger on Apr 5, 2020 13:47:22 GMT
Of course, Carlsen (as editor of the famous Pixi booklets) calculates quite differently. For a Pixi booklet 10x10cm I pay 1.50. 0.50 each is for the book trade and the intermediate trade. 0.50 is for fees and production - but that's a thousand times more.
If I compare with Lulu, I get there photo books 22x17 or 21x27 for just under 10.00. If I'm gracious, I assume that my 10x10 or 13x13 booklet is equally expensive, because the rest is just section, ergo lost. But Blurb charges 25% more for it.
And then: A 20-page booklet, which could be sent worldwide in an envelope for $2-4, they charge more than $12-28 for shipping?
And at those prices: At Mixam in the UK I simply have to pay for at least 100, but 100 Ex 10x10 with 20 pages for £85 is more than fair. 0.85 per booklet. But I don't want to stack books at my home and send them myself ;-) For this purpose Lulu, Blurb and their competitors have just been founded. But as service providers, not as robbers.
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