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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 9:06:25 GMT
A couple of weeks ago I was waiting outside the coffee shop for my boyfriend who was fetching coffee. There was a man in his car in front of me, backing up. I watched him in slow motion, the car inched closer and closer to the motorcycle in front of me, and boom! the motorcycle fell onto my car. I sit there staring at the motorcycle and the man in front of me, who got out of his car to see if he had destroyed the motorcycle that fell on my car. I 'm still not moving and watching him. He looks quickly at my car, doesn't even glance my way, and heads into the coffee shop looking for the owner. I get out of my car and say loudly, "Aren't you going to say sorry?!" He was confused, as was the other man, whose motorcycle had been damaged. The damagee looks at the damager and says, "Did you damage her car?" "No," he says, confused, almost amused, "she wants a sorry." I repeated, "You didn't even say sorry." "I did," he says, still baffled. "No, you didn't. Say sorry!" "Ok, sorry..."
The lesson and observation in hindsight? I brought Canada to Greece. It just didn't fit. I was wrong. Sorry is a silly word. The man did the important thing. He went to find the man whose motorcycle he had broken. He looked at my car, and that was that. Who cares about sorry? I'm still learning the culture, what matters, what works, why these people are so healthy and happy. "Sorry" does not matter. It's doing the right thing that does.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Jan 15, 2022 15:15:28 GMT
HAHAHAHA!!  You DID take Canada to Greece! My last boss was Canadian. You couldn't ask for a nicer boss. He would never say, "No". (But that sword has two edges.) |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jan 15, 2022 17:55:02 GMT
Using the word sorry can very much be part of doing the right thing regardless of locale. The word can be an indicator of sorrow, distress, regret, or penitence regarding something which has happened.
Acknowledging that he could have potentially damaged your vehicle while you were in it is a way to defuse potential anger. It's also about taking responsibility for one's actions.
I've dealt with enough people here in the States who no matter how much damage they may have done to you and / or your property, they not only wouldn't give a damn, they also would see no reason why they should need to compensate you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 20:48:04 GMT
HAHAHAHA!! You DID take Canada to Greece! My last boss was Canadian. You couldn't ask for a nicer boss. He would never say, "No". (But that sword has two edges.) It's hard to get rid of the training. All those years😅 But I'm learning. Practicing, Talk later, rather than, Have a good day. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 20:50:32 GMT
Using the word sorry can very much be part of doing the right thing regardless of locale. The word can be an indicator of sorrow, distress, regret, or penitence regarding something which has happened. Acknowledging that he could have potentially damaged your vehicle while you were in it is a way to defuse potential anger. It's also about taking responsibility for one's actions. I've dealt with enough people here in the States who no matter how much damage they may have done to you and / or your property, they not only wouldn't give a damn, they also would see no reason why they should need to compensate you. A little tiny sorry certainly would have difused me. However, my sorry scene has changed him, I'm sure. Next person he drops a bike on he will apologize to. 😀 |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jan 16, 2022 0:18:28 GMT
Using the word sorry can very much be part of doing the right thing regardless of locale. The word can be an indicator of sorrow, distress, regret, or penitence regarding something which has happened. Acknowledging that he could have potentially damaged your vehicle while you were in it is a way to defuse potential anger. It's also about taking responsibility for one's actions. I've dealt with enough people here in the States who no matter how much damage they may have done to you and / or your property, they not only wouldn't give a damn, they also would see no reason why they should need to compensate you. A little tiny sorry certainly would have difused me. However, my sorry scene has changed him, I'm sure. Next person he drops a bike on he will apologize to. 😀 With luck he will remember and consider that it helps to defuse another person's anger.
One thing to consider; empathy is partly learned and partly genetic and females tend to be more genetically empathetic.
Time for me to finish off my duty night. αργότερα
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 8:43:21 GMT
A little tiny sorry certainly would have difused me. However, my sorry scene has changed him, I'm sure. Next person he drops a bike on he will apologize to. 😀 With luck he will remember and consider that it helps to defuse another person's anger.
One thing to consider; empathy is partly learned and partly genetic and females tend to be more genetically empathetic.
Time for me to finish off my duty night. αργότερα
Ah, I like your αργότερα. Τα λέμε😉 |
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jan 19, 2022 15:09:56 GMT
Not sure about anywhere else, but in the UK whoever started of the domino effect is liable. Insurance details have to be exchanged, by law, of all concerned. But insurance companies advise to never admit fault. The word Sorry is just that I would expect. As a by-note. In the UK there's a right of way law on the roads. It's very specific who has right of way in given circumstances. But even so, I often, out of politeness, and it's no big deal, I will give way when there's no legal need to. But often to stop some idiot who does not follow the laws causing me to swerve off in to a ditch. Often no thanks is offered by the other driver. One of my sons, who travels other countries a lot, insists that acknowledgement of thanks of such giving way is usually a British thing. Just like we say sorry, when it's not even our fault! www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3nScN89Klo&t=3s |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 16:42:38 GMT
Not sure about anywhere else, but in the UK whoever started of the domino effect is liable. Insurance details have to be exchanged, by law, of all concerned. But insurance companies advise to never admit fault. The word Sorry is just that I would expect. As a by-note. In the UK there's a right of way law on the roads. It's very specific who has right of way in given circumstances. But even so, I often, out of politeness, and it's no big deal, I will give way when there's no legal need to. But often to stop some idiot who does not follow the laws causing me to swerve off in to a ditch. Often no thanks is offered by the other driver. One of my sons, who travels other countries a lot, insists that acknowledgement of thanks of such giving way is usually a British thing. Just like we say sorry, when it's not even our fault! www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3nScN89Klo&t=3sOh, that's where we got it from, the constant sorry. Oops, I mean "they" not we. I'm Greek now 😉 So happy to see you back. |
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Post by lonny on Jan 20, 2022 6:32:34 GMT
On the other hand, I was providing telephone tech support today for a young woman whom I believe was Taiwanese. She kept apologizing for troubling me, when I was literally doing what they pay me to do. I had to tell her not to be sorry, that these things happen to everyone. On the one hand, it speaks very well of her upbringing that she was so humble and apologetic, but it was a bit uncomfortable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 10:33:30 GMT
On the other hand, I was providing telephone tech support today for a young woman whom I believe was Taiwanese. She kept apologizing for troubling me, when I was literally doing what they pay me to do. I had to tell her not to be sorry, that these things happen to everyone. On the one hand, it speaks very well of her upbringing that she was so humble and apologetic, but it was a bit uncomfortable. It's cultural. I watched Squid Game and the Indian guy kept bowing and apologizing and saying sir. Drove me crazy. Get up, I wanted to say. I would have been firm in person. Do not do that again. No sorry, no ma'am. Walk like a king. It's different with Canadians. They don't feel small, just...polite. |
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jan 20, 2022 13:44:47 GMT
On the other hand, I was providing telephone tech support today for a young woman whom I believe was Taiwanese. She kept apologizing for troubling me, when I was literally doing what they pay me to do. I had to tell her not to be sorry, that these things happen to everyone. On the one hand, it speaks very well of her upbringing that she was so humble and apologetic, but it was a bit uncomfortable. Some of the Asian countries' natives are indeed very polite. Seems to be indoctrinated in to them many generations ago, and still sticks. Shame other countries do not follow the example. Politeness costs nothing, but is often seen as weakness. |
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