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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Feb 17, 2022 2:57:43 GMT
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Post by potet on Feb 17, 2022 9:40:28 GMT
Very interesting. I agree with them about non-didactic books like novels, that are written for the general public. What they say does not actually apply to didactic books because such books always target a limited readership of specialists, who are always looking forward to new publications in their field, and are eager to buy them or have them bought by a library.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Feb 17, 2022 13:29:07 GMT
That is a really great reality check.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Feb 17, 2022 15:26:39 GMT
It is a great reality check, but will those who need to hear it the most actually listen?
Often enough someone who gets rejected by a Traditional Publisher thinks Self Publishing will be easier, usually without considering factors which may have caused the rejection. Then the marketing for a SP company kicks in making it sound like success is just around the corner.
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Feb 18, 2022 1:20:34 GMT
Very interesting. I agree with them about non-didactic books like novels, that are written for the general public. What they say does not actually apply to didactic books because such books always target a limited readership of specialists, who are always looking forward to new publications in their field, and are eager to buy them or have them bought by a library. I would have thought it applied to all books. I used to look forward to new Discworld novels. Not self-published of course, and always top sellers. But there's many many niche nonfiction books aimed at small markets, and that article still applies. Anyway, this is also interesting www.markinblog.com/book-sales-statistics/ it lists quite a few nonfiction niche books. This is an interesting point >> "Over 80% of people who read books have at least some college education, if not a degree." perhaps that's why they do have degrees?
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Feb 18, 2022 1:29:39 GMT
It is a great reality check, but will those who need to hear it the most actually listen? We used to tell them, they took no notice, after all, their astonishingly badly-written and created book would be a top-seller with no effort at all, because it was SO AMASING!Often enough someone who gets rejected by a Traditional Publisher thinks Self Publishing will be easier, usually without considering factors which may have caused the rejection. Then the marketing for a SP company kicks in making it sound like success is just around the corner. There's many reasons for rejection. One common one is publishers often have a portfolio to fill and publish each year, and if a person sends something in when it's full, the letter will not even be opened. But of course some classics got rejected out of hand for years, also. lithub.com/the-most-rejected-books-of-all-time/ (but I have to admit I have never heard of some of those). There's a few very obvious ones missing from that list, also.
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Post by larika on Feb 18, 2022 7:15:40 GMT
Thanks Kevin I found that vert interesting
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Feb 18, 2022 15:23:02 GMT
It is a great reality check, but will those who need to hear it the most actually listen? We used to tell them, they took no notice, after all, their astonishingly badly-written and created book would be a top-seller with no effort at all, because it was SO AMASING!Often enough someone who gets rejected by a Traditional Publisher thinks Self Publishing will be easier, usually without considering factors which may have caused the rejection. Then the marketing for a SP company kicks in making it sound like success is just around the corner. There's many reasons for rejection. One common one is publishers often have a portfolio to fill and publish each year, and if a person sends something in when it's full, the letter will not even be opened. But of course some classics got rejected out of hand for years, also. lithub.com/the-most-rejected-books-of-all-time/ (but I have to admit I have never heard of some of those). There's a few very obvious ones missing from that list, also.As a rule in the digital age a publisher can easily let people know when they're closed for submissions.
My last rejection, the editor actually stated it wasn't due to poor writing but rather the story wasn't a good enough fit for their current catalogue.
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Feb 19, 2022 0:19:11 GMT
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