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Post by BostonZone on Mar 4, 2023 13:11:17 GMT
Hello Folks,
I uploaded a docx version of my ebook on the Ebook File Upload page of my account. I noticed that after the conversion the bookmarks on the URLs are being removed.
In the OpenOffice Writer program that I use for the manuscript, I can click on the link & it will open up to an exact part of the page that I specified, by using the # symbol followed by the bookmark name. For example: wwww.website.com/#BookmarkName
Before I upload the ODT file I convert it to docx. I check the docx also, in OO Writer, & see that it is opening up to the specified bookmark on the page just fine.
So, these bookmarks are being removed during the conversion.
Is anyone aware of a method to prevent this from happening?
thank you,
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 4, 2023 14:40:00 GMT
Hello Folks, I uploaded a docx version of my ebook on the Ebook File Upload page of my account. I noticed that after the conversion the bookmarks on the URLs are being removed. In the OpenOffice Writer program that I use for the manuscript, I can click on the link & it will open up to an exact part of the page that I specified, by using the # symbol followed by the bookmark name. For example: wwww.website.com/#BookmarkName Before I upload the ODT file I convert it to docx. I check the docx also, in OO Writer, & see that it is opening up to the specified bookmark on the page just fine. So, these bookmarks are being removed during the conversion. Is anyone aware of a method to prevent this from happening? thank you,
It may also be due to how you're formatting the link. Refer to the site where you're doing the conversion for specifics, as there will be differences between what flies for Kindle versus what flies for Lulu Press.
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Post by BostonZone on Mar 4, 2023 17:11:03 GMT
Hi Cameron,
I thank you for the quick response.
I just checked the kindle version of this book & all 4 hyperlinks went to the specific places on the pages.
I had a look at LuLu's hyperlink policy, & it appears I'm in line with it. "Your ebook can include hyperlinks, with some important restrictions. Links cannot be to advertisements. You cannot link to sites selling books. You can, however, link to your Blog or personal website(s)."
It's my personal website; not book selling. Also, the hyperlink does bring up those pages on my website, just not at the specific points, because the bookmarks are removed during LuLu's conversion.
Regarding your statement: "It may also be due to how you're formatting the link. Refer to the site where you're doing the conversion for specifics, as there will be differences between what flies for Kindle versus what flies for Lulu Press."
If web browsers & the kindle version are going to these specific points on the pages then the formatting would OK, right?
thank you,
Mark
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 4, 2023 22:33:26 GMT
Is it referring to the hyperlinks that are the Table of Contents? If not then I am surprised links to places out of the ePub book are allowed, because even nowadays not all e-readers are connected to the internet.
Anyhow, if I recall the Lulu How To manual correctly it only says how to create the Table of Contents, and in Word you just mark a chapter heading using the Heading 1 setting in the Ribbon, and supposedly Lulu's Wizard uses that to create the ToCs.
KDP actually uses Word's own ToC tool for ebooks.
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Post by BostonZone on Mar 5, 2023 1:30:10 GMT
Is it referring to the hyperlinks that are the Table of Contents? If not then I am surprised links to places out of the ePub book are allowed, because even nowadays not all e-readers are connected to the internet. Anyhow, if I recall the Lulu How To manual correctly it only says how to create the Table of Contents, and in Word you just mark a chapter heading using the Heading 1 setting in the Ribbon, and supposedly Lulu's Wizard uses that to create the ToCs. KDP actually uses Word's own ToC tool for ebooks. Thanks for the response, Kevin. It's not the TOC. This is occurring in the main part of the book. It's happening with every link to my website that points to a specific paragraph. Once again, it brings up all pages just fine, just not at the exact locations. For some reason the converter is removing the bookmarks. |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 5, 2023 17:17:47 GMT
Hi Cameron, I thank you for the quick response. I just checked the kindle version of this book & all 4 hyperlinks went to the specific places on the pages. I had a look at LuLu's hyperlink policy, & it appears I'm in line with it. "Your ebook can include hyperlinks, with some important restrictions. Links cannot be to advertisements. You cannot link to sites selling books. You can, however, link to your Blog or personal website(s)." It's my personal website; not book selling. Also, the hyperlink does bring up those pages on my website, just not at the specific points, because the bookmarks are removed during LuLu's conversion. Regarding your statement: "It may also be due to how you're formatting the link. Refer to the site where you're doing the conversion for specifics, as there will be differences between what flies for Kindle versus what flies for Lulu Press." If web browsers & the kindle version are going to these specific points on the pages then the formatting would OK, right? thank you, Mark Lulu Press can be a bit opaque at times, but it sounds like the hyperlinks were properly formatted. You'll need to put in a support ticket with Lulu Press to find out what the specific issue is and how to fix it [while remembering to reply to their ticket-generated email so the ticket isn't automatically closed]. The ticket won't be looked at before Monday [6 March] a Lulu Press is closed on weekends. |
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Post by Mag2024 on Mar 5, 2023 19:22:06 GMT
Hi Cameron, I thank you for the quick response. I just checked the kindle version of this book & all 4 hyperlinks went to the specific places on the pages. I had a look at LuLu's hyperlink policy, & it appears I'm in line with it. "Your ebook can include hyperlinks, with some important restrictions. Links cannot be to advertisements. You cannot link to sites selling books. You can, however, link to your Blog or personal website(s)." It's my personal website; not book selling. Also, the hyperlink does bring up those pages on my website, just not at the specific points, because the bookmarks are removed during LuLu's conversion. Regarding your statement: "It may also be due to how you're formatting the link. Refer to the site where you're doing the conversion for specifics, as there will be differences between what flies for Kindle versus what flies for Lulu Press." If web browsers & the kindle version are going to these specific points on the pages then the formatting would OK, right? thank you, Mark Convert your ODT file to epub, tweak, clean up, remove and reinsert bookmarks/links, check Validation for errors using an old version of Sigil - then upload to Lulu. Never upload a doc, docx or odt file. |
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 6, 2023 2:05:27 GMT
I have to say I have never had a problem using docx for uploading to lulu's ePub tool, or KDP, but I do find sigil and whatnot too complicated! Just another damn thing to learn when there was no need! Then again, I only put a ToC in them. What do you use to tag hyperlinks that are not part of a ToC?
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Post by BostonZone on Mar 8, 2023 12:58:11 GMT
I opened a ticket last Sunday.
A LuLu representative got back to me saying they were unable to replicate issue about the converter removing the anchor in URL.
She did not tell me what format she used to. I responded asking how she accomplished this.
I'm now researching online to see what other naming conventions there are for URL anchors.
Thanks to all those who have responded to this question.
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 9, 2023 1:09:58 GMT
Most help place have stock replies, and of course nothing is ever their fault ... unless you insist strongly.
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Post by BostonZone on Mar 9, 2023 9:32:47 GMT
I have to say I have never had a problem using docx for uploading to lulu's ePub tool, or KDP, but I do find sigil and whatnot too complicated! Just another damn thing to learn when there was no need! Then again, I only put a ToC in them. What do you use to tag hyperlinks that are not part of a ToC? Hello Kevin, I just read your question. The format I'm using to create the hyperlinks in OpenOffice Writer is: www.MyWebsite.org/NameOfPage.htm#AnchorNameLike I said, both web browsers that I use are bringing up the exact point on these pages. So is the kindle edition after it's converted. thanks |
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Post by BostonZone on Mar 9, 2023 9:41:47 GMT
Is Anyone Able to Replicate This?Hello to all who have been viewing this post & making suggestions. LuLu support got back to me with the anchored link that they are using to test. It's this: help.lulu.com/en/support/solutions/articles/64000255463-mandatory-ebook-distribution-requirements#Content-StandardsThey did not specify the file format that they are uploading to the converter; presumably, it's DOCX. I tried this link in my existing manuscript & it didn't work. LuLu converter removes the anchor during conversion of that DOCX file. I also created a new document in OpenOffice Writer. That was an ODT file with only one line; a link to this address: help.lulu.com/en/support/solutions/articles/64000255463-mandatory-ebook-distribution-requirements#Content-StandardsRather than converting to DOCX I just uploaded the ODT file to the converter. Then I downloaded the file & viewed the epub with an HTML viewer to find that the LuLu converter removed the anchor. So, the LuLu converter is removing the anchors in both DOCX & ODT. This is the same URL with anchor that LuLu support used in its test, that worked. Would anyone mind replicating this? If so, can you tell me what writing program you're using to create the link? Also, what URL/Anchor protocol you're using, & format you are using to upload to the LuLu converter. Any further suggestions would greatly appreciated. Thank you,
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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 11, 2023 2:31:26 GMT
Is it removing this ? > " ... links to online retailers or booksellers." Could it be assuming that the link, which I assume is to your own site, is a retailer?
And this is new to me >> "**... however, Amazon Kindle requires a minimum listing price of $0.99 USD.**" Do they mean that's charged via Lulu?
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Post by Mag2024 on Mar 11, 2023 14:10:21 GMT
Is Anyone Able to Replicate This?Hello to all who have been viewing this post & making suggestions. LuLu support got back to me with the anchored link that they are using to test. It's this: help.lulu.com/en/support/solutions/articles/64000255463-mandatory-ebook-distribution-requirements#Content-StandardsThey did not specify the file format that they are uploading to the converter; presumably, it's DOCX. I tried this link in my existing manuscript & it didn't work. LuLu converter removes the anchor during conversion of that DOCX file. I also created a new document in OpenOffice Writer. That was an ODT file with only one line; a link to this address: help.lulu.com/en/support/solutions/articles/64000255463-mandatory-ebook-distribution-requirements#Content-StandardsRather than converting to DOCX I just uploaded the ODT file to the converter. Then I downloaded the file & viewed the epub with an HTML viewer to find that the LuLu converter removed the anchor. So, the LuLu converter is removing the anchors in both DOCX & ODT. This is the same URL with anchor that LuLu support used in its test, that worked. Would anyone mind replicating this? If so, can you tell me what writing program you're using to create the link? Also, what URL/Anchor protocol you're using, & format you are using to upload to the LuLu converter. Any further suggestions would greatly appreciated. Thank you, They used to not allow multiple links in epubs. Do a search in Knowledgebase It's too risky to let their software convert for you. Upload an epub. I convert to epub using Calibre, then I clean it up in Sigil. |
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Post by BostonZone on Mar 12, 2023 14:17:32 GMT
They used to not allow multiple links in epubs. Do a search in Knowledgebase It's too risky to let their software convert for you. Upload an epub. I convert to epub using Calibre, then I clean it up in Sigil. Hi Maggie, I appreciate the response. LuLu got back to me saying there is a glitch in the LuLu converter regarding anchors that only pertains to documents created in MS Word (& allegedly OpenOffice Writer), converted to DOCX & uploaded to the converter. With such a document the converter removes the anchors (.htm#AnchorName). The workaround they gave me is to create the file from scratch in Google Docs. I tried that it it does work. That's not an option for me at this time because I'd have to redo all the formatting & links. Another option that I've found is to either copy & paste the ODT text into a Google Docs or open the ODT in Google Docs so that it converts, then save it as DOCX. That will keep the anchors. Yet, that's also not an option because it disables all endnote links (internal links) plus disrupts some of the formatting. So, the solution I'm using for now is to directly edit the epub that I download from LuLu. This is in line with your suggestion, although the epub was generated by the LuLu converter. I'm using Sigil to directly edit the epub. I placed the anchors at the end of the links in this file, & that is working. Then I upload the epub to the converter & it takes OK. Something I've noticed, though, is if I'm directly posting an epub to the converter it doesn't recognized a new book cover that I upload. That's probably because the cover is already contained in the epub. The workaround for that, I've found, is to rename the epub to a zip extension, unzip it, & replaced the "cover.jpg" file with the new book cover. After that I re-zip all files, then rename it with an epub extension. So, if I want these anchors in the epub it takes some editing yet it does work. thanks |
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