davidatthegrove
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Frickin' cold riding the "polar vortex"!
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Post by davidatthegrove on Jan 14, 2024 19:35:31 GMT
We get the conserve energy messages every time there's a hot or cold snap, which as mentioned can have deadly consequences. Politicians apparently think weather related life-force-reduced-to-zero is a temporary condition. Until they get rid of us all... sure.  It was interesting to read today that, thanks to Saskatchewan's few remaining coal and natural gas power plants, we were able to export extra power to Alberta's "more green" power grid to save their citizens from rolling blackouts. I guess wind turbines don't turn very well in -40 weather.  |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jan 14, 2024 20:23:30 GMT
We get the conserve energy messages every time there's a hot or cold snap, which as mentioned can have deadly consequences. Politicians apparently think weather related life-force-reduced-to-zero is a temporary condition. Until they get rid of us all... sure. It was interesting to read today that, thanks to Saskatchewan's few remaining coal and natural gas power plants, we were able to export extra power to Alberta's "more green" power grid to save their citizens from rolling blackouts. I guess wind turbines don't turn very well in -40 weather. What's more problematic for wind turbines is either lack of wind or too much wind.
Where I live the gas-fired power plants can go down due to infrastructure not being properly hardened to withstand temperature extremes. It's a bit amusing to hear about a power plant [or multiple power plants] shutting down due to the natural gas lines freezing. Then conservative politicians saying we all need to chip in for repairs the power companies can make on their own except it would cut into profit margins.
Whether power plants around here go down or not over the next few days, it will get cold enough to thin out some of the homeless population. Last year it was roughly 322 homeless in Bexar county.
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davidatthegrove
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Frickin' cold riding the "polar vortex"!
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Post by davidatthegrove on Jan 14, 2024 21:00:59 GMT
What's more problematic for wind turbines is either lack of wind or too much wind.
Yes, I do recall reading a report that the wind turbines they installed out our way could only operate up to a wind speed of 80km/h. Where I live the gas-fired power plants can go down due to infrastructure not being properly hardened to withstand temperature extremes. It's a bit amusing to hear about a power plant [or multiple power plants] shutting down due to the natural gas lines freezing. Then conservative politicians saying we all need to chip in for repairs the power companies can make on their own except it would cut into profit margins. Oh, God forbid the power company loses any profits. Are you in Texas? If I'm remembering correctly, I read somewhere that a couple years ago temperatures got so low in Texas that the wind turbines couldn't spin. So, now tax payers had to pay for major upgrades to the turbines to ones that could sustain colder temperatures? Whether power plants around here go down or not over the next few days, it will get cold enough to thin out some of the homeless population. Last year it was roughly 322 homeless in Bexar county.
I pray for those unfortunate people. Hopefully they'll be able to find safe shelter to ride out the storm. That "global warming" is really making it difficult to survive these cold temperatures.  |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Jan 14, 2024 21:24:39 GMT
What's more problematic for wind turbines is either lack of wind or too much wind.
Yes, I do recall reading a report that the wind turbines they installed out our way could only operate up to a wind speed of 80km/h. Where I live the gas-fired power plants can go down due to infrastructure not being properly hardened to withstand temperature extremes. It's a bit amusing to hear about a power plant [or multiple power plants] shutting down due to the natural gas lines freezing. Then conservative politicians saying we all need to chip in for repairs the power companies can make on their own except it would cut into profit margins. Oh, God forbid the power company loses any profits. Are you in Texas? If I'm remembering correctly, I read somewhere that a couple years ago temperatures got so low in Texas that the wind turbines couldn't spin. So, now tax payers had to pay for major upgrades to the turbines to ones that could sustain colder temperatures? Whether power plants around here go down or not over the next few days, it will get cold enough to thin out some of the homeless population. Last year it was roughly 322 homeless in Bexar county.
I pray for those unfortunate people. Hopefully they'll be able to find safe shelter to ride out the storm. That "global warming" is really making it difficult to survive these cold temperatures. South Central Texas, on the southern edge of the Edwards Plateau.
Wind turbines need to be winterized, and should function down to -22F [-30C] when maintained properly, but it is what it is. Winter of 2021 was when gas-fired power plants went down due to lack of winterization and some wind turbines had issues as well, all thanks to profit over lives.
The homeless have few options in Texas, though in San Antonio there will be 7 warming stations opening from 21:00 tonight through 08:00 on Wednesday. Out where we live, no such luck.
Global Warming leads to weather extremes both hot and cold. We had 74 days last year with 100F+ [37.778C+] temperatures, and the arctic storms are harder to tolerate as a result.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Jan 14, 2024 23:23:16 GMT
And Kevin 2024 It's not just having to generate the energy to drive the vehicle, but to also keep the interior warm. At -30C a 20KM wind can turn that quickly into a -40C windchill. And you have to keep that heater going while you're stopped at the stop light, too. And out here here in Saskatchewan, many people have to travel from the rural country side to the town or city. So, that trip is anywhere between 40 to 100km for a lot of people. I've also read that, to get the best battery performance you should keep the car in a heated garage. So, rather than just having to use the electricity to plug in your car's block heater, now you have to use enough energy to heat an entire garage. And if you don't have a garage? What, you have to build one now? Perhaps you shouldn't live in a place that cold. That's pretty much north and south pole temps. But even old style batteries seem to have been coping with such temps for decades.As for charging your car at home in the cold... check this headline out: edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/edmonton-weather-extreme-cold-prompts-electricity-grid-alert-saturday-sunday-morning-to-be-the-coldestWhat can I say? Get your gov to generate more electric? I don't know about over there but in Europe around 2035 car makers will not be allowed to make or sell carbon-fuelled cars and already production is geared towards that. But I think people are starting to realise that not enough electricity is being generated to fully replace carbon fuels. Car makers are starting to make hybrid cars again.Can you imagine if everyone had an electric car they had to charge once they got home for the evening? And they're talking about rolling blackouts... in winter.... at -40 to -50C!!! That's totally nuts, not to mention potentially deadly. (In case you're not aware, forced air gas furnaces also need electricity to run. So do those new geothermal heat pumps). So, unless you're like us with a wood stove, you don't got heat if you don't got electricity. And at these temperatures, in an hour your house is gonna start to get pretty cold. I just don't see as sixty percent in battery efficiency cutting it. Maybe on the coast or south of the border. But the climate is a fair bit harsher, out here on the prairie. Something the politicians in the Ottawa don't seem to understand. |
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Jan 14, 2024 23:33:55 GMT
Until they get rid of us all... sure. It was interesting to read today that, thanks to Saskatchewan's few remaining coal and natural gas power plants, we were able to export extra power to Alberta's "more green" power grid to save their citizens from rolling blackouts. I guess wind turbines don't turn very well in -40 weather. What's more problematic for wind turbines is either lack of wind or too much wind.
They don't really need much wind, they are geared so one turn = a lot of power, and they simply 'feather' of there's too much.
Where I live the gas-fired power plants can go down due to infrastructure not being properly hardened to withstand temperature extremes. It's a bit amusing to hear about a power plant [or multiple power plants] shutting down due to the natural gas lines freezing. Then conservative politicians saying we all need to chip in for repairs the power companies can make on their own except it would cut into profit margins.
They are having you on. It only freezes if it's contaminated, and it really should not be.
Whether power plants around here go down or not over the next few days, it will get cold enough to thin out some of the homeless population. Last year it was roughly 322 homeless in Bexar county.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Jan 14, 2024 23:35:40 GMT
Anyway. where were we? Products with Save the Human printed on them?
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