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Post by benziger on Jul 11, 2020 8:39:11 GMT
The Italian provider Streetlib is known for focusing on the 70% of the market outside the USA. Anyone considering him should take a good look at the distribution network. It has interesting channels there. Depending on the target audience, there may be a few very important ones missing. Just as the USA is not the world, Italy is not the whole world neither. When I see the set-up costs, the amount reminds me very much of the costs at IngramSpark. Therefore, it is probably worthwhile to compare the distribution channels of these two providers more closely to see which one reaches its readers better, if I am willing to pay set up costs.
The Italian provider Streetlib is offering printed books again after a long interruption. This page gives an overview of his offer: - e-books (10% of the sales price*)
- Audiobooks (20% of the sales price)
- printed books (49€ setup fee + 10 of the sales price*)
* for Lulu, the margin is calculated on profit, not on the sales price. You have to keep this in mind when comparing.
Source: www.streetlib.com/pricing
It's distributed through other channels, particularly European and Italian. The book trade is mainly limited to Italy. This overview is very meaningful and can also be filtered individually: www.streetlib.com/distribution/retail-partners
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 10:37:17 GMT
The Italian provider Streetlib is known for focusing on the 70% of the market outside the USA. Anyone considering him should take a good look at the distribution network. It has interesting channels there. Depending on the target audience, there may be a few very important ones missing. Just as the USA is not the world, Italy is not the whole world neither. When I see the set-up costs, the amount reminds me very much of the costs at IngramSpark. Therefore, it is probably worthwhile to compare the distribution channels of these two providers more closely to see which one reaches its readers better, if I am willing to pay set up costs.
The Italian provider Streetlib is offering printed books again after a long interruption. This page gives an overview of his offer: - e-books (10% of the sales price*)
- Audiobooks (20% of the sales price)
- printed books (49€ setup fee + 10 of the sales price*)
* for Lulu, the margin is calculated on profit, not on the sales price. You have to keep this in mind when comparing.
Source: www.streetlib.com/pricing
It's distributed through other channels, particularly European and Italian. The book trade is mainly limited to Italy. This overview is very meaningful and can also be filtered individually: www.streetlib.com/distribution/retail-partnersI think they even set up their own bookstore chain for print books, or some kind of partnership with bookstores. They plan to expand to the whole world.
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Post by benziger on Jul 12, 2020 18:36:47 GMT
I think they even set up their own bookstore chain for print books, or some kind of partnership with bookstores. They plan to expand to the whole world.
Yes. they do. If you look to the e-book-shops selling the books published at Streetlib, you will see a lot never heard before: Amazon, iBook, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Google Play Books, Tolino, OverDrive, Scribd, Odilo, Indigo, 24Symbols, Artcivic, Bajalibros, Baker & Taylor, Bidi, Bookrepublic, Casa del Libro, CNPIECSTORE, Decalibro, Feedbooks, Hoepli, Hummingbird, LaFeltrinelli, Leamos, Libreka, Libreria Universitaria, Librerias Gandhi, Librisalus.it, Macrolibrarsi, Nineva, Omniabuk (DGLine), Perlego, Peru Bookstore, ReteIndaco, San Paolo Store, Unilibro, Webster, Winvaria, MLOL, OverDrive, YouScribe, StreetLib. Most of them have a home market where they have a bigger market share: Mexico, Brasil, India, Italy, etc.
It's the same for printed books. At the moment, Streetlib has with Hoepli and others the best offer for Italy. For the German speaking area (D-A-CH), Bookmundo and Epubli are much better. So it depends of the market an author or small publisher wants to enter. Some will publish with Amazon and cover a large share of the market, but others like Streetlib wants to cover the other 70% of the market - even if they need for that hundred partners. For Lulu, I am not sure at the moment. They cover parts of the not-Amazon-market, but not as clear as Streetlib does. (But you are right, Streetlib has to do some more steps as there are still areas not served by them like the Central European D-A-CH-area..)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 20:10:54 GMT
I think they even set up their own bookstore chain for print books, or some kind of partnership with bookstores. They plan to expand to the whole world.
Yes. they do. If you look to the e-book-shops selling the books published at Streetlib, you will see a lot never heard before: Amazon, iBook, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Google Play Books, Tolino, OverDrive, Scribd, Odilo, Indigo, 24Symbols, Artcivic, Bajalibros, Baker & Taylor, Bidi, Bookrepublic, Casa del Libro, CNPIECSTORE, Decalibro, Feedbooks, Hoepli, Hummingbird, LaFeltrinelli, Leamos, Libreka, Libreria Universitaria, Librerias Gandhi, Librisalus.it, Macrolibrarsi, Nineva, Omniabuk (DGLine), Perlego, Peru Bookstore, ReteIndaco, San Paolo Store, Unilibro, Webster, Winvaria, MLOL, OverDrive, YouScribe, StreetLib. Most of them have a home market where they have a bigger market share: Mexico, Brasil, India, Italy, etc.
It's the same for printed books. At the moment, Streetlib has with Hoepli and others the best offer for Italy. For the German speaking area (D-A-CH), Bookmundo and Epubli are much better. So it depends of the market an author or small publisher wants to enter. Some will publish with Amazon and cover a large share of the market, but others like Streetlib wants to cover the other 70% of the market - even if they need for that hundred partners. For Lulu, I am not sure at the moment. They cover parts of the not-Amazon-market, but not as clear as Streetlib does. (But you are right, Streetlib has to do some more steps as there are still areas not served by them like the Central European D-A-CH-area..)
Benziger, because we were a Lulu forum I've been understating all that Streetlib offers so as to not overstep on any toes. They do not charge for storage. They have not charged me a penny, ever. I opted out of using them for print because they were using Createspace. I was using it myself and don't require any help with the files. However, if they set up their own print channels, and if they have a free option, I will definitely try them. They have the most incredible, professional reporting. They give you daily temporary sales reports. They offer the platform in every language in the world. They enable people of all languages to get their work published. Everyone has value to them; from the smallest tribe to the biggest empire. They update you weekly and which sites your book has been located. And--China. They are working on tapping into the Chinese market (highest population in the world). In fact, they are already sending books to the Opt-in Dreame app placed on all Chinese phones. You get paid a percentage after a certain amount of downloads. Something like that. Too new a concept for me so I can't offer details. People are afraid of new, but try one book there. You won't be sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 20:16:14 GMT
I think they even set up their own bookstore chain for print books, or some kind of partnership with bookstores. They plan to expand to the whole world.
Yes. they do. If you look to the e-book-shops selling the books published at Streetlib, you will see a lot never heard before: Amazon, iBook, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Google Play Books, Tolino, OverDrive, Scribd, Odilo, Indigo, 24Symbols, Artcivic, Bajalibros, Baker & Taylor, Bidi, Bookrepublic, Casa del Libro, CNPIECSTORE, Decalibro, Feedbooks, Hoepli, Hummingbird, LaFeltrinelli, Leamos, Libreka, Libreria Universitaria, Librerias Gandhi, Librisalus.it, Macrolibrarsi, Nineva, Omniabuk (DGLine), Perlego, Peru Bookstore, ReteIndaco, San Paolo Store, Unilibro, Webster, Winvaria, MLOL, OverDrive, YouScribe, StreetLib. Most of them have a home market where they have a bigger market share: Mexico, Brasil, India, Italy, etc.
It's the same for printed books. At the moment, Streetlib has with Hoepli and others the best offer for Italy. For the German speaking area (D-A-CH), Bookmundo and Epubli are much better. So it depends of the market an author or small publisher wants to enter. Some will publish with Amazon and cover a large share of the market, but others like Streetlib wants to cover the other 70% of the market - even if they need for that hundred partners. For Lulu, I am not sure at the moment. They cover parts of the not-Amazon-market, but not as clear as Streetlib does. (But you are right, Streetlib has to do some more steps as there are still areas not served by them like the Central European D-A-CH-area..)
Lulu, for print, does sell more books. Which leads me to believe they have better distribution. I just think they need to be aggressively transparent about it. One should not have to research to find out every single one of their retail partners. More that 30 is not clear enough. Ingram Spark tells us thet have a 30 000 reach, yet Lulu still sells more books. I think they should yell it out, front page, who they work with and how.
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Post by Winter on Jul 12, 2020 23:14:59 GMT
When I signed up for StreetLib there was a page there that listed charges for file storage. It said the first five megabytes were free, after that they charged and gave a special rate per month on files up to a certain size. That's why I deleted the account and left. I should have screen shotted it. But it was there in the account. I did like that they had many places they distributed that lulu doesn't seem to. I found my books on some already such as 24 Symbols. I thought it was torrent site. After writing them I found out they had my books that listed by Ingrams and where renting them and paying Ingrams a percentage each month. Searching for my books online the first half of the list Benziger wrote already have my books. It seems the second half don't have my books listed.
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