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Post by ronmiller on Sept 9, 2020 14:41:29 GMT
However this fellow is recognised by his government as a cyborg. "Neil Harbisson (born 27 July 1984) is a Spanish-born British-Irish[18] cyborg artist and activist for transpecies rights based in New York City.[19] He is best known for being the first person in the world with an antenna implanted in his skull[20] and for being legally recognized as a cyborg by a government." (Wikipedia) They obviously don't know what a cyborg is then. But what exactly is it wired up to? There's more to vision, or any sensory perception, than eyeballs and nerve endings in the body, it's to do with complex parts in the brain. Who on earth did the highly complex operation? It would require brain surgery at the highest level, costing umpteen thousands. Or is it really just a vibrating thing screwed to his skull? I don't think it has anything to do with a government knowing or not knowing what a cyborg is. Harbisson was drawing a conclusion from the fact that his passport photo was accepted. Since his "antenna" was part of his permanent appearance...as eyeglasses or a nose ring or a tattoo might have been...the photo was accepted for ID. It doesn't mean that the government acknowledged his status as a "cyborg." That's just something he came up with.
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Post by ronmiller on Sept 9, 2020 14:43:10 GMT
This is apparently the basis for his claim to have his cyborgness legally recognized: "Harbisson says he holds the distinction of being the first cyborg to be legally recognized by a government: the photo on his UK passport shows him wearing his device, effectively sanctioning it as part of his face." That's just his claim. He's not been recognised as anything of the sort. All he has is the right to 'wear' an object permanently and legally while passing through customs as shown on his passport. An item hard to remove. He simply calls himself a cyborg-artist, like some people call themselves steampunks.RM Exactly!I think the same could be said for a pair of glasses or a toupee. There's a chap in Sweden I think it is, who programs animal identification chips with his own details, and uses the same device vets use to place it under his skin. He has quite a following of people who have also done it. How does he pass through all the detectors at borders? I assume he too has some sort of official explanation when the machines bleep, seeing as he's not a pet.RM One can only imagine how hard it must be for him to travel anywhere!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 12:25:15 GMT
However this fellow is recognised by his government as a cyborg. "Neil Harbisson (born 27 July 1984) is a Spanish-born British-Irish[18] cyborg artist and activist for transpecies rights based in New York City.[19] He is best known for being the first person in the world with an antenna implanted in his skull[20] and for being legally recognized as a cyborg by a government." (Wikipedia)This is apparently the basis for his claim to have his cyborgness legally recognized: "Harbisson says he holds the distinction of being the first cyborg to be legally recognized by a government: the photo on his UK passport shows him wearing his device, effectively sanctioning it as part of his face." I think the same could be said for a pair of glasses or a toupee. Maybe he isn't what you accept is a cyborg but it looks as though there will be cyborgs in the future. "Harbisson co-founded the Cyborg Foundation, “to help humans become cyborgs, to promote the use of cybernetics as part of the human body and to defend cyborg rights” thefashionglobe.com/neil-harbisson
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 10, 2020 15:27:25 GMT
This is apparently the basis for his claim to have his cyborgness legally recognized: "Harbisson says he holds the distinction of being the first cyborg to be legally recognized by a government: the photo on his UK passport shows him wearing his device, effectively sanctioning it as part of his face." I think the same could be said for a pair of glasses or a toupee. Maybe he isn't what you accept is a cyborg but it looks as though there will be cyborgs in the future. "Harbisson co-founded the Cyborg Foundation, “to help humans become cyborgs, to promote the use of cybernetics as part of the human body and to defend cyborg rights” thefashionglobe.com/neil-harbisson He's not what can be classed as a cyborg. And as to his claim to support their rights. Those 'rights' were decided here >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_by_Southwest Fixed in law then … He's not really a good example. People with more credibility than him have been discussing it for years. interestingengineering.com/roboethics-the-human-ethics-applied-to-robots Some universities already have departments specialising in the ethics of it. SF has dealt with the subject for decades. Terminator, Battlestar Galactica, just as two relatively recent mainstream examples. www.alphr.com/robotics/1006337/robot-has-existential-crisis-drowns-self Asimov came up with 'laws' years ago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics but of course they were only really built in to the ones he wrote about, other SF had other ideas.
In my opinion you have these >> Robots - totally mechanical, plus software, and nowadays rarely in human form; Androids - totally artificial 'humans' that even seem human when cut open, and run by AI; Cyborgs - a mixture of those two to replace broken human parts. Or even to give humans powers they were not born with. Like this perhaps >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Soldier_(1992_film)#Plot
There's an SF series of books, I cannot recall the name, but set in the very far distant future where cybernetic enhancements have been greatly simplified down to often invisible 'tattoos'. The money one can afford, the more 'super' you can be. Super to the point of seeming magical, to us anyway.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Sept 10, 2020 15:29:06 GMT
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