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Post by benziger on Dec 25, 2020 23:05:58 GMT
In the ISBN manual I read: Different formats of a digital publication must be given their own ISBN if these formats are also available separately. If a publication is available in two formats, but they are only offered as a package, it is sufficient to mark them with only one ISBN. If formats are made available separately, all ISBN must be listed below each other for all versions and the abbreviation of the format must be given in brackets at the end of the ISBN. For printed editions, if the ISBN of other formats are known, these formats may also be listed in this way.
Examples: ISBN 978-951-45-9693-3 (hardback edition).
ISBN 978-951-45-9694-0 (paperback)
ISBN 978-951-45-9695-7 (PDF)
ISBN 978-951-45-9696-4 (EPUB) So far so clear. But what about the barcodes (EAN)?
Do they all get on there?
Specifically, can I design a cover with two EANs (print and e-book) or do I have to upload two separate covers?
Or does the e-book not need an EAN at all because there is no physical handling? |
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Post by Ken on Dec 26, 2020 9:42:15 GMT
In my opinion an EAN is only required for printed books, you may only have a single barcode.
There is no reason or use for one on an ebook.
But you could add a QR somewhere on one.
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Post by Ken on Dec 27, 2020 15:58:13 GMT
Some random thoughts on ISBNs............
When a new project is started on Lulu an ISBN is allocated, if the project is dropped at that stage then the ISBN is not used any where nor removed. Perhaps it could then be used by the author for a new project on IngramSparks.
Although many only use free ISBNs from Lulu for their books. Why don’t more purchase their own ISBN in blocks of 10 or 100, even 1,000?
Why shouldn’t authors club together to buy a block of ISBNs, like members of this Forum.
ISBNs are available to purchase from various agencies in different countries of the World.
Why do prices vary so much from Country to Country?
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Dec 28, 2020 15:35:43 GMT
In the US one ISBN costs $125, a block of 10 costs $295, while a block of 100 costs $575.
People in Canada can get ISBNs for free from their government.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 16:15:46 GMT
In the US one ISBN costs $125, a block of 10 costs $295, while a block of 100 costs $575. People in Canada can get ISBNs for free from their government. Yes, South Africans and Canadians can get free ISBN numbers. Here in England it costs 1=£89.00, 10=£164.00, 100=£369, 1000=£949.00. |
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Post by Ken on Dec 28, 2020 16:28:07 GMT
I always thought that the UK was reasonably priced for serious author publishers and I was happy to pay that.
Just bought a block of ten here in Spain for equiv of £125?
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Dec 28, 2020 16:48:51 GMT
I always thought that the UK was reasonably priced for serious author publishers and I was happy to pay that. Just bought a block of ten here in Spain for equiv of £125? Roughly 138 Euros, while the US cost for ten is about 204 Euros. |
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Post by benziger on Jan 1, 2021 22:32:01 GMT
Why shouldn’t authors club together to buy a block of ISBNs, like members of this Forum. ISBNs are available to purchase from various agencies in different countries of the World. Yes, why not? Maybe there are people here who have a quota and would share? I see the question about the agencies, their prices and the problem with sharing as follows: ISBN are first of all divided according to language regions. So it is 100x easier for me to order a 978-3 book than a 978-1 book. Simply because my bookseller buys from a wholesaler who stocks the German-language publishers. Other books are only imported specifically or on order. This means that if I were to buy a Spanish ISBN from Ken or a Canadian ISBN from Maggie, for example, this could have an impact on how well my book is available in my language area or on how complicated it is to order. Then there is a cultural issue: is the ISBN agency a commercial, for-profit provider, a non-profit self-help organisation of publishers, or part of the government's cultural funding? Does the agency cover a catchment area as large as the USA (approx. 328 million) and therefore have a scale effect x times greater than, for example, the agency of German-speaking Switzerland (approx. 5.9 million). In the end, the question of the name remains. If someone were to get an ISBN from me, their book would be published by me from the point of view of the book trade; ergo, my publisher's name must be on it. And if you take it strictly, he would have to send a proof copy to "my" (in my case, depending on the interpretation, up to four) national libraries. |
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