The Nazi Doctors and the Nuremberg Code Book

If no used is available it's on Amazon.

www.amazon.com/Nazi-Doctors-Nuremberg-Code-Experimentation/dp/0195101065

De nada.

In SF and Horror, where some sort of disturbing experimentation is taking place on humans (and even animals) financed by some supervillain, the head doctor was usually ex-Nazi. Not easy to write in to a contemporary story because not many Nazi doctors are still alive now, unless it's a story about immortality or whatever.
Hitler was of course obsessed about a Master Race.
But it can be disturbing to us aged types when someone says "Lest we forget what?" some even deny the Holocaust ever happened.

I too watched Final Messages. I found it interesting but I decided to find out about the comparison of the Nuremberg code to the present covid situation. I found this article very interesting fullfact.org/health/nuremberg-code-covid/#:~:text=The%20Nuremberg%20Code%20is%20a,consent%E2%80%94during%20World%20War%20Two

The vaccines for COVID are based on decades of research, meaning they didn't happen overnight. www.statnews.com/2021/01/05/basic-research-paved-way-for-warp-speed-covid-19-vaccines/

The reality is a vaccine in use for decades can still be considered experimental. The reason being different genetic lines can react differently [at times adversely] to a vaccine that tested well with one particular group. For example a vaccine shown safe and effective for most people of Northwestern European descent may not be as safe and efficacious for individuals of Indigenous American, Indigenous Australian, Southeast Asian, or other populations. A few years ago I had a discussion about this with a clinical trial manager who stated efforts are being made to move away from testing mostly people of Northwestern European descent.

The problem with coming up for a vaccine for cancer is 1] there are so many different types of cancer, 2] the genetics an individual has essentially makes treating a form of cancer more of an individualized approach, and 3] as a result there would be no one vaccine for cancer, rather it would involve numerous individual vaccines which would have to be tested individually and in varying combinations to ensure you aren't killing more people than you're helping.

Last April when I got a neighbor to give me a ride to the ER [incidentally my self-diagnosis was correct] the morphine shot I was given for pain did about as much for me as an extra strength acetaminophen. The crap they used at ICU in order to do the procedure was so ineffective, the surgeon asked me to shut up so he could focus on what he was doing. Don't get me started on cursing a surgeon in Spanish when I regained awareness while an eye was deflated and he was scraping out cataract material back in the mid-90s .

My point being, different individuals can react quite differently to the exact same medication or vaccine. What has one person all relaxed and dreamy can have someone like me ready to kick butts and take trophy heads, so any medical procedure [even one done thousands of times] should be considered experimental on some level.

Do you, Larika, believe the current vaccines are not experimental? That's what I want to know.

If it's so easy and quick to make a full proof, safe drug to inject into the human body, then they should make one for cancer. It's about time. Maggie

Maggie, I was worried about the injections at the beginning, so I went on the internet and did a lot of research as to how experimental they were. However It was difficult initially to get a great deal of information, what I did find out was that people with underlying conditions like me and particularly if they were old, were extremely vulnerable. I decided to have the injections. I had no ill effects from the first one nor the second or the third. By now a couple of years later there was more information. What I found out was that all vaccines completed clinical trials and were deemed safe. But the safety monitoring of these vaccines continues, which is what normally happens with new vaccines. All vaccines have been put through standard safety testing before being rolled out to the public. I am definitely going to have my fourth vaccine which in England they want to give to all people over the age of 75. They say it will be some time in spring.

www.cdc.gov/vaccines/adults/rec-vac/index.html

The vaccine for tetanus needs a booster every ten years. It's not that the vaccine didn't work the first time, [simply stated] it's more that the protection afforded slowly wears off as the immune system eventually forgets.

Take chicken pox, people who have it during childhood mistakenly think they can never have it again, some even take their kids to chicken pox parties which is a bad idea. The reality is if infected with chicken pox, once the disease runs its course it goes dormant in the body, often for decades. A recurrence infection in an adult is called shingles, and it can mess an adult up pretty quickly. This is why there is a shingles vaccine [which I've had].

Having a choice in matters can be a good thing, but sometimes it's not so good -- making the best choice possible is the difference.

Time to do a load of laundry as the four-year-old has been going through clothes faster than a feral cat can lick its butt.