|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 12, 2020 16:37:34 GMT
"I have absolutely no problem with you taking all of your medical concerns to your local florist, plumber or used car salesman."
Do you not understand the replies?
|
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 12, 2020 16:42:12 GMT
"True so far as it goes, but publishers in my experience tend to take online references a little less seriously than print references, unless one is writing for a vetted online publication such as, for instance, Forbes or Huffington Post. Pointing to one's own blog is often taken with a grain of salt.
It's all a person's examples of how good they write. It's all words. You cannot dismiss internet content in this day and age.
"For one thing, it is like pointing to your self-published book as an example of your experience as a writer."
Does that not show how well, or not, one can write? Shall I point out that even many classics started off self-published.
|
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 12, 2020 16:49:20 GMT
Mr Lomas,
On the "it would be interesting to know" part, it's been my experience [more often than not] that people wish knowledge about certain subjects can tend to later regret what they've learned for a variety of reasons as varied as the individuals involved.
Or simply they never wanted to know in the first place. But apparently curiosity can kill cats.
Suffice it with since I can't sit directly across a table from you to actively assess your reactions,
That is one of the great problems with places such as this, and other text only 'chat'. Facial expressions and body language is missing and without those, people can misunderstand what was typed. Although I think some misunderstand deliberately.
and since I honestly have no desire to inflict distress or harm upon others, there are subjects I prefer not to explain. In essence you may likely be far happier never knowing.
Consider me a cat.
Regarding "I would never accuse anyone of that part", it wasn't an accusation, rather it was a comment on human motivation based upon decades of studying people, and the motivations that drive the things they do. My comprehension usually mirrors that of clinical psychologists [among others] and in those odd instances where there is deviation it helps me better understand the people I have no choice but to interact with in my surrounding environment. Yet no matter how long I've studied human nature there are things as elude me, making me suspect my intellect is insufficient for the task I have assigned myself. I honestly can't wrap my mind around greed, the need to control and / or dominate others, or the joy some derive from tormenting those who can't defend themselves. I kind of get it on an intellectual level, sort of, yet it makes absolutely no logical sense why some people are driven to perform acts that are not only antisocial but also contrary to survival of the species. Perhaps empathy is insufficient, or rather the level of empathy I have is too rudimentary /defective for me to properly comprehend what I'm observing in others.
It's called Human Nature.
Last but not least, you possibly being surprised at my admission of agreeing with you. While I don't always comment or tell people exactly what I'm thinking, as a rule I am honest and have no problem stating either my agreement or my disagreement with what others say or think. Within my paradigm is the knowledge that while I am not necessarily a nice person, it's easier for me and safer for others when I emulate 'nice' to the best of my ability. I also don't find needless flattery or lying useful since the first is often seen as a means for individuals to get what they haven't earned and the second generally tends to trap its practitioners due to it being almost impossible to keep track of subterfuge stacked on top of subterfuge ad nauseum [especially when many are contradictory to the others].
Perhaps it would be easier for both of us if you just accept that I agreed with you.
|
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 12, 2020 17:03:50 GMT
"Perpetual storm and floods? That's funny. I thought I was the only one with weather problems."
Consider your globals warmed. The trouble with the UK is its mostly shallow and wide or deep and narrow valleys created mainly by rivers. Flood plains, and known to be such. And traditionally built on. Floods happened every 100 years or such, but now they happen almost every year, often half way up houses. The crazy thing is, builders are still building on them.
|
|
|
|
Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 12, 2020 22:36:35 GMT
Mr Lomas, On the "it would be interesting to know" part, it's been my experience [more often than not] that people wish knowledge about certain subjects can tend to later regret what they've learned for a variety of reasons as varied as the individuals involved. Or simply they never wanted to know in the first place. But apparently curiosity can kill cats.Suffice it with since I can't sit directly across a table from you to actively assess your reactions, That is one of the great problems with places such as this, and other text only 'chat'. Facial expressions and body language is missing and without those, people can misunderstand what was typed. Although I think some misunderstand deliberately.and since I honestly have no desire to inflict distress or harm upon others, there are subjects I prefer not to explain. In essence you may likely be far happier never knowing. Consider me a cat.Regarding "I would never accuse anyone of that part", it wasn't an accusation, rather it was a comment on human motivation based upon decades of studying people, and the motivations that drive the things they do. My comprehension usually mirrors that of clinical psychologists [among others] and in those odd instances where there is deviation it helps me better understand the people I have no choice but to interact with in my surrounding environment. Yet no matter how long I've studied human nature there are things as elude me, making me suspect my intellect is insufficient for the task I have assigned myself. I honestly can't wrap my mind around greed, the need to control and / or dominate others, or the joy some derive from tormenting those who can't defend themselves. I kind of get it on an intellectual level, sort of, yet it makes absolutely no logical sense why some people are driven to perform acts that are not only antisocial but also contrary to survival of the species. Perhaps empathy is insufficient, or rather the level of empathy I have is too rudimentary /defective for me to properly comprehend what I'm observing in others. It's called Human Nature.Last but not least, you possibly being surprised at my admission of agreeing with you. While I don't always comment or tell people exactly what I'm thinking, as a rule I am honest and have no problem stating either my agreement or my disagreement with what others say or think. Within my paradigm is the knowledge that while I am not necessarily a nice person, it's easier for me and safer for others when I emulate 'nice' to the best of my ability. I also don't find needless flattery or lying useful since the first is often seen as a means for individuals to get what they haven't earned and the second generally tends to trap its practitioners due to it being almost impossible to keep track of subterfuge stacked on top of subterfuge ad nauseum [especially when many are contradictory to the others]. Perhaps it would be easier for both of us if you just accept that I agreed with you. Mr Lomas,
Betimes you are quite amusing when you jest, at others less so.
What was originally stated was exactly what was intended, though there is differing usage between US Anglish and your version. As for curiosity killing cats, cats are generally much smarter than their human counterparts and admirable predators. Hyper-carnivores can be quite fascinating, don't you agree?
As for people deliberately misunderstanding the word as it was writ, at times some do. Then again depending upon the circumstance, there are times most people would be wise to use caution when seated on the other side of the table, as in when they experience a rising tide of unease regarding exactly who or what they face. As for considering you a cat, We admire cats, though if you spray the side of Our House, you will get hosed down with water to discourage any future attempts at you marking your territory.
We understand what Human Nature is, what is lacking is a comprehension of why humanity as a collective appears intent upon committing suicide at the species level. Perhaps you could share some of your insight with Us.
In closing, should you visit London in the near future, you might give Elizabeth Alexandra Marie of House Saxe-Coburg und Gotha Our kindest regards.
Please, enjoy your retirement, you are to be commended for achieving it.
|
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 13, 2020 16:48:42 GMT
Mr Lomas,
Betimes you are quite amusing when you jest, at others less so.
Can you tell when I am? But often Brit humour does not always travel well to the USA.
What was originally stated was exactly what was intended, though there is differing usage between US Anglish and your version.
I think some famous person once said " separated by a common language."
As for curiosity killing cats, cats are generally much smarter than their human counterparts and admirable predators. Hyper-carnivores can be quite fascinating, don't you agree?
It's said that cats bring their 'owners' dead animals as gifts, to prove that they kill for fun. But the ones I have ever had seemed to have trouble even hunting down moths.
As for people deliberately misunderstanding the word as it was writ, at times some do. Then again depending upon the circumstance, there are times most people would be wise to use caution when seated on the other side of the table, as in when they experience a rising tide of unease regarding exactly who or what they face. As for considering you a cat, We admire cats, though if you spray the side of Our House, you will get hosed down with water to discourage any future attempts at you marking your territory.
I gave up spraying when I got married. I did not even spray the wife, a ring did the job.
We understand what Human Nature is, what is lacking is a comprehension of why humanity as a collective appears intent upon committing suicide at the species level. Perhaps you could share some of your insight with Us.
Tribalism. It's still in us, and some people are more tribal than others. Some eminent sociologist said we are just 3 missed meals away from barbarism. An exaggeration, but one get's his point.
In closing, should you visit London in the near future, you might give Elizabeth Alexandra Marie of House Saxe-Coburg und Gotha Our kindest regards.
A strange request, but do you mean our 'German' Queen? Although she was not of course, Queen Victoria simply married one, when European royalty still existed, and were all related, although I think Vic's mother was German. Actually, that house stopped existing in 1918 and even later they became the Windsors to disassociate with the German connections. It's all very complex, marrying cousins and so on.
Please, enjoy your retirement, you are to be commended for achieving it.
Do you mean for living long enough?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 16:58:52 GMT
"Perpetual storm and floods? That's funny. I thought I was the only one with weather problems." Consider your globals warmed. The trouble with the UK is its mostly shallow and wide or deep and narrow valleys created mainly by rivers. Flood plains, and known to be such. And traditionally built on. Floods happened every 100 years or such, but now they happen almost every year, often half way up houses. The crazy thing is, builders are still building on them. That's unbelievable. And the houses don't collapse from all the water damage? Are they still lived in? |
|
|
|
Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 13, 2020 18:26:23 GMT
Mr Lomas, Betimes you are quite amusing when you jest, at others less so. Can you tell when I am? But often Brit humour does not always travel well to the USA.What was originally stated was exactly what was intended, though there is differing usage between US Anglish and your version. I think some famous person once said " separated by a common language." As for curiosity killing cats, cats are generally much smarter than their human counterparts and admirable predators. Hyper-carnivores can be quite fascinating, don't you agree? It's said that cats bring their 'owners' dead animals as gifts, to prove that they kill for fun. But the ones I have ever had seemed to have trouble even hunting down moths.As for people deliberately misunderstanding the word as it was writ, at times some do. Then again depending upon the circumstance, there are times most people would be wise to use caution when seated on the other side of the table, as in when they experience a rising tide of unease regarding exactly who or what they face. As for considering you a cat, We admire cats, though if you spray the side of Our House, you will get hosed down with water to discourage any future attempts at you marking your territory. I gave up spraying when I got married. I did not even spray the wife, a ring did the job.We understand what Human Nature is, what is lacking is a comprehension of why humanity as a collective appears intent upon committing suicide at the species level. Perhaps you could share some of your insight with Us. Tribalism. It's still in us, and some people are more tribal than others. Some eminent sociologist said we are just 3 missed meals away from barbarism. An exaggeration, but one get's his point.In closing, should you visit London in the near future, you might give Elizabeth Alexandra Marie of House Saxe-Coburg und Gotha Our kindest regards. A strange request, but do you mean our 'German' Queen? Although she was not of course, Queen Victoria simply married one, when European royalty still existed, and were all related, although I think Vic's mother was German. Actually, that house stopped existing in 1918 and even later they became the Windsors to disassociate with the German connections. It's all very complex, marrying cousins and so on.Please, enjoy your retirement, you are to be commended for achieving it. Do you mean for living long enough?Yeoman Lomas,
We have on occasion watched British comedy and humor on the telly. It is amusing until it becomes tedious and We are no longer amused. As for discerning when you are or are not amusing, that is something you must learn via trial and error.
We have found that it isn't uncommon for people speaking the same dialect to feign incomprehension in an effort to establish dominance or otherwise gain advantage.
Have you tried accepting a feral cat as your owner. We have found said strategy to be quite effective, nary a rodent or snake near Our House.
It's a good thing your spouse did not have to housebreak you, lest you be neutered.
We understand the concept of tribalism, though it is often counterproductive and wasteful of resources.
'Strange' depends upon one's perspective. European royalty still exists, though many Houses have gone extinct or been disbanded due to certain excesses, while the world has mostly moved on to other forms of being ruled. We are also very aware of how intricately the relationships were between different Houses. Victoria was the last Anglish member of House Hanover to ascend to the throne. Her consort and cousin, Albert, was of House Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, a cadet branch of House Wettin [the cadet branch noted for producing studs and broods - princes and princesses]. Our predecessors raised thoroughbreds [one of many professions]; when not defending against upstart Anglish Royal Houses [intent upon gaining territory through the slaughter of women, children, infants and anyone else it took to steal what wasn't theirs]. Being sufficiently educated to understand the risks of inbreeding Our predecessors did not follow the rather parochial European habit of cousins breeding with close cousins. All that said, if someone printed out and dropped Our pedigree upon an Englishman the weight would quickly prove fatal.
Yes, for living long enough. Attaining retirement age is a mix of skill, luck, context, and at least halfway decent genetics.
|
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 14, 2020 14:06:53 GMT
"That's unbelievable. And the houses don't collapse from all the water damage? Are they still lived in?"
Well no, we build using stone and bricks. Although the plaster often has to be replaced, and all the contents, plus they often stink because the sewage raises from the underground pipes.
|
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 14, 2020 14:49:08 GMT
Yeoman Lomas, I am not a Yeoman. Plus, it's a defunct term.We have on occasion watched British comedy and humor on the telly. It is amusing until it becomes tedious and We are no longer amused. Does that not apply to all humour? As for discerning when you are or are not amusing, that is something you must learn via trial and error. Not really. It can depend entirely on the recipient, for so many reasons.We have found that it isn't uncommon for people speaking the same dialect to feign incomprehension in an effort to establish dominance or otherwise gain advantage. Or as an excuse to be aggressive.Have you tried accepting a feral cat as your owner. We have found said strategy to be quite effective, nary a rodent or snake near Our House. I once raised to kittens found living in a skip (dumpster) behind a factory. They grew up to be sweet. But we have no noticeable rodents around here, and snakes are very very rare in the UK. It's a good thing your spouse did not have to housebreak you, lest you be neutered. She would have found me boring 'housebroken.' After two kids, the subject of being snipped did come up.We understand the concept of tribalism, though it is often counterproductive and wasteful of resources.
Indeed, unless at the extreme of tribalism some country's gross national earnings are based on making and selling armaments and war mongering devices. (A strange fact is that even the Church of England has shares in a tank manufacturers.)'Strange' depends upon one's perspective. European royalty still exists, Mainly in name only. though many Houses have gone extinct or been disbanded due to certain excesses, Or being parted from their heads. while the world has mostly moved on to other forms of being ruled. Quite so. The European Union is simply another way of the aristocracy creating rules to serve themselves. Not to mention the bankers. We are also very aware of how intricately the relationships were between different Houses. Are you using the royal 'We'? Victoria was the last Anglish British, actually. Anglish is a term to describe the mix of languages. member of House Hanover to ascend to the throne. Ah, well. British history is very complex, we have been invaded, settled and ruled by so many foreigners it's a wonder we have any actual national base at all.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE (I find that funny, but I know many did not understand it.)
Thankfully Cromwell put a stop to some monarchy emptying the coffers. Although not of being ruled over by the rich. Her consort and cousin, Albert, was of House Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, a cadet branch of House Wettin [the cadet branch noted for producing studs and broods - princes and princesses]. Our predecessors raised thoroughbreds [one of many professions]; when not defending against upstart Anglish Royal Houses [intent upon gaining territory through the slaughter of women, children, infants and anyone else it took to steal what wasn't theirs]. Do you mean wars? You could have simply said that. Being sufficiently educated to understand the risks of inbreeding Our predecessors did not follow the rather parochial European habit of cousins breeding with close cousins.
It's actually a myth perpetuated by the Church. Inbreeding only passes on disadvantageous genes if they are present in the first place. Ask any one who breeds (other) animals. Animals commonly breed with their offspring. And, if you are a religious type, consider the apparent first Humans, Adam and Eve, and their offspring. All that said, if someone printed out and dropped Our pedigree upon an Englishman the weight would quickly prove fatal. Huh? Anyway, our current Queen married a member of the Danish and Greek royal family. Arranged marriages went out the door a while ago though, they can marry who they want now. I give our royals just another 50 years.Yes, for living long enough. Attaining retirement age is a mix of skill, luck, context, and at least halfway decent genetics. |
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 14, 2020 14:54:13 GMT
"Yes, for living long enough. Attaining retirement age is a mix of skill, luck, context, and at least halfway decent genetics."
You make it sound like the early 20th century still. Average age here is 40. A 150 years ago-ish, that was the life expectancy.
|
|
|
|
Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 14, 2020 15:39:22 GMT
Very well, Master Lomas,
Since Herr Benziger wants us to play nicely, I will accede to his wishes as it easier.
I find it interesting how long it took you to actually notice and / or comment on the form of address.
As for your understanding of the dangers of inbreeding, you might want to get a more indepth understanding of the subject. One example would be if you attempt researching Cystic Fibrosis, a condition wherein certain recessive gene mutations extant that when present only on one side of the DNA strand or the other confers a greater survival advantage when the bearer has a case of cholera due to better cell retention of water, while when differing combinations of those same gene mutations are extant on both sides of the DNA strand the bearer has a disadvantageous genetic illness that usually both sterilizes them while leading to an early death due. While Cf isn't normally caused by inbreeding, the rate of the genetic disease [like many others] is far higher in populations than statistically probable where inbreeding is deemed acceptable. You might wish to file your myth in the appropriate receptacle.
On the following interchange I'll keep it simple for your sake.
Me: "All that said, if someone printed out and dropped Our pedigree upon an Englishman the weight would quickly prove fatal."
You: "Huh?"
In a not so subtle manner I was letting you know two things. First, that I [similar to dogs, cats, horses, and other animals bred as type examples of their breeds, as in champion examples] have a pedigree, a long one at that. Second, I was also letting you know that if someone dropped the reams of data upon your head in paper form, it would likely kill you due to the massive amount of weight involved.
Have a nice day.
|
|
|
|
Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Mar 15, 2020 3:32:45 GMT
Very well, Master Lomas, Since Herr Benziger wants us to play nicely, I will accede to his wishes as it easier. For what reason would you reply un-nicely?!!I find it interesting how long it took you to actually notice and / or comment on the form of address. Er, I replied to being called a yeoman as soon as I saw it. (Puzzled frown.)As for your understanding of the dangers of inbreeding, you might want to get a more indepth understanding of the subject. I have, and do. I come from a farming community, and most of my wife's relations and ancestors were farmers. As for myself, I breed birds. They are easier to keep than cows and sheep. They take up far less room for a start. One example would be if you attempt researching Cystic Fibrosis, a condition wherein certain recessive gene mutations extant that when present only on one side of the DNA strand or the other confers a greater survival advantage when the bearer has a case of cholera due to better cell retention of water, while when differing combinations of those same gene mutations are extant on both sides of the DNA strand the bearer has a disadvantageous genetic illness that usually both sterilizes them while leading to an early death due. While Cf isn't normally caused by inbreeding, the rate of the genetic disease [like many others] is far higher in populations than statistically probable where inbreeding is deemed acceptable. You might wish to file your myth in the appropriate receptacle. Yes, that's what I said, but simpler. The genes have to be present in the first place, but they can skip generations before they activate. Cases of actual incest are not uncommon. The last in the news was some German chap who sired around 13 kids, on his daughters. All healthy. But were we not discussing cousins and other relatives intermarrying? Which is not actually illegal.On the following interchange I'll keep it simple for your sake. Me: "All that said, if someone printed out and dropped Our pedigree upon an Englishman the weight would quickly prove fatal." You: "Huh?" In a not so subtle manner I was letting you know two things. It was so vague it was meaningless. Sorry. First, that I [similar to dogs, cats, horses, and other animals bred as type examples of their breeds, as in champion examples] have a pedigree, a long one at that. Second, I was also letting you know that if someone dropped the reams of data upon your head in paper form, it would likely kill you due to the massive amount of weight involved. Really? Who does not? if they go back far enough? Have you never watched Who do you think you are? But I don't like to boast, but I will say one of my ancestors built a village and a castle looking over it. Incidentally, why an Englishman? Our breed also go back in to the Stone Age.Have a nice day. Well, and you. It did not take long for this discussion to become passive aggressive for no reason, even by wishing me that  |
|
