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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 13:59:31 GMT
Maggie I think Benziger is concerned about 2 areas in particular, religion and politics, otherwise he has given us a free hand. However these 2 areas can cause conflict and it's probably best to stay away from these and possibly other very contentious issues.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 1, 2020 14:35:26 GMT
Maggie I think Benziger is concerned about 2 areas in particular, religion and politics, otherwise he has given us a free hand. However these 2 areas can cause conflict and it's probably best to stay away from these and possibly other very contentious issues. Herr Benziger isn't specifically prohibiting those two subjects, more expecting people to limit discussions of those two subjects to how they apply to self-publishing as well as practicing moderation, i.e.: not getting bent out of shape when others have differing perspectives. All in all not an easy task for far too many people.
This is kind of why I prefer to limit things to theoretical or hypothetical discussions, as in a religion or political system in a story. It's far harder for someone to feel targeted [whether rightly or wrongly] for their beliefs when the belief system being discussed is fictional.
A topic like sex, as in physiological features as opposed to activities can be problematic [activities and preferences can be likewise problematic] due to the number of people who are relatively uninformed about the variety things that can affect fetal development. Genes turned on or off at the wrong time, chance mutations, even genetic mosaicism can lead to individuals who are born intersex, whether defined as having ambiguous genitalia or different combinations of both sets. You'd be surprised how many people think "that stuff just happens in movies, not in real life because [insert ignorant reason here]".
As Herr Benziger stated people can tend to be dogmatic.
Then again compared to my older brothers I'm fairly uneducated in the formal sense [and reject of the litter], so my opinion should probably be taken with a shaker of salt handy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 23:46:54 GMT
Can't find the article I read this morning but here is another:
Is slowing the spread of coronavirus worth compromising your privacy? By Sara Morrison Mar 26, 2020, 7:20am EDT
Easiest solution, switch the GPS function on your phone to "off". [Then tacking you is far less accurate due to being based off cell tower pings.]
Not always a solution, remove the battery from your phone and only put it back in when you need to make a call or arrive home. [The battery in my phone is integrated, and not removable without a lot of effort.]
Not removable here either. I have location turned off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 23:48:30 GMT
Maggie I think Benziger is concerned about 2 areas in particular, religion and politics, otherwise he has given us a free hand. However these 2 areas can cause conflict and it's probably best to stay away from these and possibly other very contentious issues. Actually, he's right. The entire internet is talking about politics. In fact, I talk about politics with my mother, my sister, my brother and my dog run friends. Also, my cousin and best friend.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 2, 2020 0:14:04 GMT
Easiest solution, switch the GPS function on your phone to "off". [Then tacking you is far less accurate due to being based off cell tower pings.]
Not always a solution, remove the battery from your phone and only put it back in when you need to make a call or arrive home. [The battery in my phone is integrated, and not removable without a lot of effort.]
Not removable here either. I have location turned off. That works.
These days I forget to take my phone with me often enough, perhaps due to being tired of being an ancient direwolf on a very short leash.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 3:40:03 GMT
In genetics, a mosaic, or mosaicism, involves the presence of two or more populations of cells with different genotypes in one individual who has developed from a single fertilized egg.
I have learned so many new words from you Sphinx-Cameron. What an incredible vocabulary youhave.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 2, 2020 11:10:53 GMT
In genetics, a mosaic, or mosaicism, involves the presence of two or more populations of cells with different genotypes in one individual who has developed from a single fertilized egg.I have learned so many new words from you Sphinx-Cameron. What an incredible vocabulary youhave. Ah, well another fun one from genetics is chimerism, an example being the "vanished twin" where one person has two sets of DNA. The patterns tend to be 46XX/46XX, 46XX/46XY, or 46XY/46XY.
One woman had her children taken away by social services for a while because genetic testing showed she wasn't their mother, she was their aunt, despite the fact she gave birth to them. Later testing done with samples taken from a different source in her body showed she was indeed the mother, just with different parts of her body based on two different sets of DNA.
A man found out late in life he'd essentially been carrying a sister around internally in the form of a uterus and ovaries. He'd been married for decades, had kids and grandkids, and only found out after going to get a different unrelated medical concern checked out.
Fun times
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 11:47:16 GMT
Ah, well another fun one from genetics is chimerism, an example being the "vanished twin" where one person has two sets of DNA. The patterns tend to be 46XX/46XX, 46XX/46XY, or 46XY/46XY.
One woman had her children taken away by social services for a while because genetic testing showed she wasn't their mother, she was their aunt, despite the fact she gave birth to them. Later testing done with samples taken from a different source in her body showed she was indeed the mother, just with different parts of her body based on two different sets of DNA.
A man found out late in life he'd essentially been carrying a sister around internally in the form of a uterus and ovaries. He'd been married for decades, had kids and grandkids, and only found out after going to get a different unrelated medical concern checked out.
Well at least the humanoid robots won't have to worry about these kinds of human anomalies. I have almost finished reading your fascinating book and will then post a review on Amazon.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 2, 2020 12:01:55 GMT
Ah, well another fun one from genetics is chimerism, an example being the "vanished twin" where one person has two sets of DNA. The patterns tend to be 46XX/46XX, 46XX/46XY, or 46XY/46XY.
One woman had her children taken away by social services for a while because genetic testing showed she wasn't their mother, she was their aunt, despite the fact she gave birth to them. Later testing done with samples taken from a different source in her body showed she was indeed the mother, just with different parts of her body based on two different sets of DNA.
A man found out late in life he'd essentially been carrying a sister around internally in the form of a uterus and ovaries. He'd been married for decades, had kids and grandkids, and only found out after going to get a different unrelated medical concern checked out.
Well at least the humanoid robots won't have to worry about these kinds of human anomalies. I have almost finished reading your fascinating book and will then post a review on Amazon. It's good to hear you're enjoying the book.
A character in one of my other books is a cybernetic organism with an artificial brain and a somewhat modified or enhanced body cultured specifically for her use. I'm not certain how well she deals with having a reproductive system, but her parent [an AI relic from an earlier time] did get to experience the frustration of a parent arguing with a child before it died.
All the variations on the human condition can get interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 12:40:13 GMT
Sphinx-Cameron, your character is a cybernetic organism. Well I had to look that up and was told by google that it is a cyborg. It also tells me "A person could be considered a cyborg when they are outfitted with implants such as artificial heart valves, cochlear implants or insulin pumps. A person could even be called a cyborg when they are using specific wearable technologies like Google Glass, or even using laptops or mobile devices to do work."
It does make you wonder if humanoid robots and cyborgs are likely to end up being our friends, or something rather more sinister. Some people feel that "Machines can easily lead to destruction, if put in the wrong hands. That is, at least a fear of many humans. AI as robots can supercede humans, enslaving us."(research gate)
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 2, 2020 13:16:57 GMT
Sphinx-Cameron, your character is a cybernetic organism. Well I had to look that up and was told by google that it is a cyborg. It also tells me "A person could be considered a cyborg when they are outfitted with implants such as artificial heart valves, cochlear implants or insulin pumps. A person could even be called a cyborg when they are using specific wearable technologies like Google Glass, or even using laptops or mobile devices to do work." It does make you wonder if humanoid robots and cyborgs are likely to end up being our friends, or something rather more sinister. Some people feel that " Machines can easily lead to destruction, if put in the wrong hands. That is, at least a fear of many humans. AI as robots can supercede humans, enslaving us."(research gate)Lady Elizabeth,
Yes, cyborg is the short form of cybernetic organism. If a lens implant is considered a device in the same sense as artificial heart valves and such, then I've been a cyborg since age thirty-five.
As for humanoid robots and / or cyborgs being friends or enemies, that really depends on the people involved with either the artificial entity or the combination entity.
Humans, as a species, have a nasty habit of taking some of the most benign or common things and using them for sinister purposes. Someone with the simplest training can walk into the average home and find dozens of everyday items to use to commit a murder.
Taking it a step further, at least for the immediate future it won't be AI enslaving us, it will be the people controlling the AI enslaving us. It's the same issue as drives industrialized warfare, industrialized poverty, or industrialized genocide, or industrialized economic systems; a relative few controlling the many for their own convenience and betterment to the detriment of far too many.
Unless and until humanity as a collective gets its collective act together, perhaps a better question people might do well to be considering would be: does humanity deserve to survive?
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Apr 2, 2020 13:17:08 GMT
In the UK it's just been decided that a sneeze and cough can travel much further than thought. I have no idea how far they thought it did travel, but I recall posters and public information broadcasts during the 1960s (they started much earlier though) saying they project at 150 MPH, so one assumes it's a great distance, at least prior to the 1970s … the campaign was called Coughs and Sneezes Cause Diseases, and was recommending the use of hankies to cough in to, not your hand, or the open space and people in front of you. When was the last time you saw anyone use a hanky? So what our doctors are saying now, is always wear a mask. If you can find any still on sale. Even our NHS don't have enough for their staff. www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=Pl7ZvlFT_To&feature=emb_logo
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Apr 2, 2020 13:36:53 GMT
Devices knowing where you are? Apart from actual satellite navigation (GPS) which is very useful, it's useful anyway even when searching for products. Search often brings up only local places, instead of, say, Asia. GPS only knows exactly were your device is (not you) when you turn on the GPS map, and it has no idea who you are. Location in general only knows the general area you live in, and it's not using GPS, as per Deliver To (and an estimated delivery time) options on some websites, which only know a large postcode area, not your actual address until you type it in. What people need to worry about, and many governments do and are questioning those who do it, is all the other data they collect (to sell) such as your medical records. Your location is not needed for that, just your name and address, which you often type in to sites. Also, most Android devices and the Apps on them will search everything on your phone under the heading Share (Contacts, photos, stuff like that) by default, unless you turn that option off, with the warning that the App will not work at all if you do.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Apr 2, 2020 13:53:18 GMT
Asimov, who first coined the term Robotics, wrote mostly about robots (many of which were so human-like, no one knew they were) came up with a set of rules that should be programmed in to all AI endowed robots.
First Law A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Second Law A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law
Third Law A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws
He later added this
Zeroth Law A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
Later he added a further one.
Forth Law The need of the masses outweigh the need of the individual.
He not only used them in his own SF, but other SF writers also took them in.
But nowadays, they have been forgotten and one of the biggest investments in robotics research are by the Armed Forces. One aspect is the remote controlled bomber plane drone. Admitted to have bombed friendly forces and civilians by mistake, even with a human at the controls miles away, are now being equipped with AI. The AI decides who to bomb or not …
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Apr 3, 2020 18:23:57 GMT
Yeah, had to listen to an obnoxious jerk, likely from New York City by the sound and way he was acting.
Bullying the elderly around here while threatening people who mention quantity limits, not a smart choice for someone to make around these here parts.
Wearing a FDNY tee shirt while talking loudly and aggressively does not make someone bullet-proof.
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