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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 15:23:16 GMT
Another difference is that going through Lulu Press to distribute through Ingram only adds cost to the price of your book, because every set of hands your book passes through means someone extra wants to get paid. So very true. The are the top of the pyramid. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 15:26:49 GMT
Like in the book The Alchemist. You have to go around the world to see, understand and appreciate what was right under your nose all along.
What? Children's books don't have to cost $24.99? And no one told me? Yes, they did. I wouldn't listen.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 15:30:38 GMT
Regarding retail discount on the Lulu bookstore I found this at whatsnew.lulu.com (no word about a wholesale discount for bookstores etc.): Retail Price Discounts RemovedPreviously, authors could set a percent-off discount for their books sold on the Lulu bookstore. With the updates to our bookstore and payment options, we've removed this feature. REQUIRED ACTIONS: We recommend reviewing the retail price for all projects on the Lulu Bookstore and making any adjustments to the list price as needed. Anything is possible. They can follow the IS model. Discounts for bookstores and Return/Destroy as the only option. 90 day payment delay. It's set out for them. They just have to copy. |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on May 22, 2020 15:32:49 GMT
Perhaps Lulu Press has lifted some restriction in that area, which still leaves the fact Lulu Press will add cost to your book without offering the Wholesale Discount and Return that businesses and institutions want. Meanwhile Ingram adds cost because Lulu Press goes through it for distribution to book stores and such.
I've already read the "What's New" page. For my purposes, adjusting my print retail pricse on Lulu, as buggy as their system currently is on top of the competitive marketplace disadvantage there, is it's easier for me to retire my prints, wait until I can buy a nice block of ISBNs, then take them elsewhere like Amazon and Ingramspark.
I can also pay for a review, possibly three which will add a bit more legitimacy to my work. Regarding the money I paid for "Global Reach" years ago it's simply the cost of learning about the publishing business, and I have been learning.
You lose nothing by keeping your books on Lulu. Just create another version elsewhere, and learn. So far, Ingram Spark is the jet the takes you everywhere., and doesn't price your book out of market. Gives you the same benefits as traditional publishers.
But they take about 7 days to answer your support tickets, charge when you do not have a coupon code. Still, if I had to do it over, I would not be so afraid and intimidated to use Ingram Spark. It's almost a fail wish self-publishers have. Why wouldn't one take the mass distribution at the very top?
Oh, I'm learning, and having done some one-piece cover work without benefit of Photoshop or Indesign, unless there's something weird required at Ingramspark I can redo my covers.
As for leaving prints on Lulu Press, I'd still need to take them out of "Global Reach". Reason being because having too many "Publishers" listed for the same title and format looks unprofessional, unless it's a reprint of something years after the first. Since I can't recall off the top of my head selling more than two possibly three print copies between 2013 and 2020, it's time to retire the Lulu Press versions since leaving them there isn't gaining me anything.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 15:35:06 GMT
Yes. Put a white background layer under cover, reduce size of front cover so lines do not do over the blues guidelines. Reduce size of title on spine. Too close. Logo also too close. "Yes. Put a white background layer under cover" It was white as submitted, I was just showing the areas for the post here... "Reduce size of title on spine. Too close. Logo also too close." Any particular reason(s) why you would recommend to do that? They are both formally in the allowed regions. "reduce size of front cover so lines do not do over the blues guidelines" Well, nah... Sure, that would be easiest way to formally fulfill the requirements, but... All in all, the slightly different book size already messed up the balance already, too bad, getting a design right is also quite a bit of luck/fate, but will see... Yes, but since you already have the extra white layer underneath you can easily create a layer of your front only and reduce its size.
As for the spine and logo text, why risk it? It's so close to the edge. I don't think any printing machine or human operating it can be trusted completely.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 15:37:12 GMT
You lose nothing by keeping your books on Lulu. Just create another version elsewhere, and learn. So far, Ingram Spark is the jet the takes you everywhere., and doesn't price your book out of market. Gives you the same benefits as traditional publishers.
But they take about 7 days to answer your support tickets, charge when you do not have a coupon code. Still, if I had to do it over, I would not be so afraid and intimidated to use Ingram Spark. It's almost a fail wish self-publishers have. Why wouldn't one take the mass distribution at the very top?
Oh, I'm learning, and having done some one-piece cover work without benefit of Photoshop or Indesign, unless there's something weird required at Ingramspark I can redo my covers.
As for leaving prints on Lulu Press, I'd still need to take them out of "Global Reach". Reason being because having too many "Publishers" listed for the same title and format looks unprofessional, unless it's a reprint of something years after the first. Since I can't recall off the top of my head selling more than two possibly three print copies between 2013 and 2020, it's time to retire the Lulu Press versions since leaving them there isn't gaining me anything.
Ok, so do it as soon as possible. It takes weeks to get them off distribution. Then, the former books will be listed on Amazon as currently unavailable, info still showing there. Forever. |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on May 22, 2020 15:47:22 GMT
Oh, I'm learning, and having done some one-piece cover work without benefit of Photoshop or Indesign, unless there's something weird required at Ingramspark I can redo my covers.
As for leaving prints on Lulu Press, I'd still need to take them out of "Global Reach". Reason being because having too many "Publishers" listed for the same title and format looks unprofessional, unless it's a reprint of something years after the first. Since I can't recall off the top of my head selling more than two possibly three print copies between 2013 and 2020, it's time to retire the Lulu Press versions since leaving them there isn't gaining me anything.
Ok, so do it as soon as possible. It takes weeks to get them off distribution. Then, the former books will be listed on Amazon as currently unavailable, info still showing there. Forever. Already on it, since I've already told Lulu Press Support to delete / retire anything that isn't an Epub.
I have to wait until the Lulu Press versions are showing as "Unavailable" before I can list a KDP print version or risk being in violation of Lulu Press' terms and conditions.
As for info showing forever, you can look up books by various authors of the last seventy years and find publisher and ISBN info for reprints and new editions through the decades, including in cases where two shorter novels included in "Twofer" with a new encompassing title, copyright, and ISBN. Therefore that part doesn't bother me, but having the same format of my print versions listed as available from multiple publishers at the same time would.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 16:49:42 GMT
Ok, so do it as soon as possible. It takes weeks to get them off distribution. Then, the former books will be listed on Amazon as currently unavailable, info still showing there. Forever. Already on it, since I've already told Lulu Press Support to delete / retire anything that isn't an Epub.
I have to wait until the Lulu Press versions are showing as "Unavailable" before I can list a KDP print version or risk being in violation of Lulu Press' terms and conditions.
As for info showing forever, you can look up books by various authors of the last seventy years and find publisher and ISBN info for reprints and new editions through the decades, including in cases where two shorter novels included in "Twofer" with a new encompassing title, copyright, and ISBN. Therefore that part doesn't bother me, but having the same format of my print versions listed as available from multiple publishers at the same time would.
Kdp might have a rule where you can't list a title with them for a year if it's been published through another outlet. Ingram Spark had some kind of addendum to that effect. You might want to research it. |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on May 22, 2020 17:36:33 GMT
Already on it, since I've already told Lulu Press Support to delete / retire anything that isn't an Epub.
I have to wait until the Lulu Press versions are showing as "Unavailable" before I can list a KDP print version or risk being in violation of Lulu Press' terms and conditions.
As for info showing forever, you can look up books by various authors of the last seventy years and find publisher and ISBN info for reprints and new editions through the decades, including in cases where two shorter novels included in "Twofer" with a new encompassing title, copyright, and ISBN. Therefore that part doesn't bother me, but having the same format of my print versions listed as available from multiple publishers at the same time would.
Kdp might have a rule where you can't list a title with them for a year if it's been published through another outlet. Ingram Spark had some kind of addendum to that effect. You might want to research it.
Since Lulu Press isn't a publisher in the traditional sense, and sense I didn't enter into a contractual agreement with Lulu Press Inc indicating it had sole distribution rights for a contracted period of time in return for compensation, I doubt I'll need a Letter of Reversion [as in all rights under my copyright returned to me]. From what I read once the projects are retired and either listed as "Unavailable" or "Out of Print" KDP shouldn't be an issue.
Even if I had to wait a year it's not an issue, since it won't be until around next February when I can purchase a block of ISBNs, pay for a review or three, and so on. In the interim I can wait to see if my latest work will be deemed worthy of a wider audience. I waited years between finishing my third book and releasing it, and I have others close to completion I can eventually release so it's all good.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 17:42:03 GMT
Kdp might have a rule where you can't list a title with them for a year if it's been published through another outlet. Ingram Spark had some kind of addendum to that effect. You might want to research it.
Since Lulu Press isn't a publisher in the traditional sense, and sense I didn't enter into a contractual agreement with Lulu Press Inc indicating it had sole distribution rights for a contracted period of time in return for compensation, I doubt I'll need a Letter of Reversion [as in all rights under my copyright returned to me]. From what I read once the projects are retired and either listed as "Unavailable" or "Out of Print" KDP shouldn't be an issue.
Even if I had to wait a year it's not an issue, since it won't be until around next February when I can purchase a block of ISBNs, pay for a review or three, and so on. In the interim I can wait to see if my latest work will be deemed worthy of a wider audience. I waited years between finishing my third book and releasing it, and I have others close to completion I can eventually release so it's all good.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on May 22, 2020 17:52:53 GMT
Since Lulu Press isn't a publisher in the traditional sense, and sense I didn't enter into a contractual agreement with Lulu Press Inc indicating it had sole distribution rights for a contracted period of time in return for compensation, I doubt I'll need a Letter of Reversion [as in all rights under my copyright returned to me]. From what I read once the projects are retired and either listed as "Unavailable" or "Out of Print" KDP shouldn't be an issue.
Even if I had to wait a year it's not an issue, since it won't be until around next February when I can purchase a block of ISBNs, pay for a review or three, and so on. In the interim I can wait to see if my latest work will be deemed worthy of a wider audience. I waited years between finishing my third book and releasing it, and I have others close to completion I can eventually release so it's all good.
Ok, for your latest one who are you using? My last book was submitted to Baen, with a heartfelt thank you to Ron Miller for showing me how to do either a synopsis or query letter depending upon an individual publisher's requirements.
The one prior to that can go on KDP tomorrow as I have a one-piece ready [since I ain't purty enough for a bikini]. I doubt it will take much tweaking. I also appreciate Ron helping with the cover since I'm not a graphic artist. He has one of the only two copies printed so far.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 18:56:07 GMT
Ok, for your latest one who are you using? My last book was submitted to Baen, with a heartfelt thank you to Ron Miller for showing me how to do either a synopsis or query letter depending upon an individual publisher's requirements.
The one prior to that can go on KDP tomorrow as I have a one-piece ready [since I ain't purty enough for a bikini]. I doubt it will take much tweaking. I also appreciate Ron helping with the cover since I'm not a graphic artist. He has one of the only two copies printed so far.
Your cover looks great. Is it too late or can you add some lighting effects in background? Or a very transparent layer of a map outine of the setting. I know you didn't ask my opinion, and I apologize for giving it, with good intent. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 19:53:56 GMT
Yes, but since you already have the extra white layer underneath you can easily create a layer of your front only and reduce its size.
As for the spine and logo text, why risk it? It's so close to the edge. I don't think any printing machine or human operating it can be trusted completely.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on May 22, 2020 20:32:33 GMT
My last book was submitted to Baen, with a heartfelt thank you to Ron Miller for showing me how to do either a synopsis or query letter depending upon an individual publisher's requirements.
The one prior to that can go on KDP tomorrow as I have a one-piece ready [since I ain't purty enough for a bikini]. I doubt it will take much tweaking. I also appreciate Ron helping with the cover since I'm not a graphic artist. He has one of the only two copies printed so far.
Your cover looks great. Is it too late or can you add some lighting effects in background? Or a very transparent layer of a map outine of the setting. I know you didn't ask my opinion, and I apologize for giving it, with good intent. Part of the reasoning for the cover as it is would be the stark contrast between the near-identical line of figures and the background, giving the impression that if someone stepped back far enough there's be another line of near-identical figures to be seen. It conveys the vague feeling that these beings are mass-produced and simply waiting to be called, as is evidenced by the one in the middle with open eyes.
Since the figures on the cover are repurposed Hunter-Killer "brains" in a new more aesthetically pleasing chassis...
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 21:36:36 GMT
Your cover looks great. Is it too late or can you add some lighting effects in background? Or a very transparent layer of a map outine of the setting. I know you didn't ask my opinion, and I apologize for giving it, with good intent. Part of the reasoning for the cover as it is would be the stark contrast between the near-identical line of figures and the background, giving the impression that if someone stepped back far enough there's be another line of near-identical figures to be seen. It conveys the vague feeling that these beings are mass-produced and simply waiting to be called, as is evidenced by the one in the middle with open eyes.
Since the figures on the cover are repurposed Hunter-Killer "brains" in a new more aesthetically pleasing chassis...
The one with the open eyes lends an extra layer of interest, by 25%. Can you make her bigger than the rest or write a tag line like, it's your turn. Or something to cause movement? |
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