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Post by And still Kevin 2024 on Jul 13, 2020 17:50:48 GMT
Of course banning a book often turns it in to a top seller. (if you can actually find it on sale!) But there are instances where perhaps, in retrospect, some books should never have been published in the first place. Just two examples.
Mein Kampf.
Any publication by Karl Heinrich Marx (written and published in all innocence.)
I am sure some will disagree.
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Post by ronmiller on Jul 13, 2020 22:45:42 GMT
I think it should be called the Comstock Effect, if it isn't already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 23:07:44 GMT
I think it should be called the Comstock Effect, if it isn't already. That's disturbing.
"On March 3, 1873, Congress passed the new law, later known as the Comstock Act. The statute defined contraceptives as obscene and illicit, making it a federal offense to disseminate birth control through the mail or across state lines."
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Post by ronmiller on Jul 14, 2020 11:51:42 GMT
Anthony Comstock became notorious as the president of the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, a bastion of Victorian morality. Of all the terrible things he did under that aegis, the one that totally backfired on him was his outrage at the appearance of a painting of a nude girl in the window of a NY gallery. The result was that the painting became immensely famous, being reproduced in calendars, magazines and prints all over the country for decades. Even though the painting---"September Morn"---was a mediocre one that would have been quickly forgotten it is remembered and even familiar to this very day. Actually, Comstock got taken in by a clever publicity stunt. In order to draw attention to the painting, a group of kids was hired to stare into the shop window. Comstock's attention was drawn to this sight and his moral outrage took over from there. That's the Comstock Effect: when one's outrage at something one considers obscene only serves to draw more attention to it than ever. The whole story is really funny. septembermorn.org/exhibits/show/history/america/newyork |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 11:57:02 GMT
Anthony Comstock became notorious as the president of the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, a bastion of Victorian morality. Of all the terrible things he did under that aegis, the one that totally backfired on him was his outrage at the appearance of a painting of a nude girl in the window of a NY gallery. The result was that the painting became immensely famous, being reproduced in calendars, magazines and prints all over the country for decades. Even though the painting---"September Morn"---was a mediocre one that would have been quickly forgotten it is remembered and even familiar to this very day. Actually, Comstock got taken in by a clever publicity stunt. In order to draw attention to the painting, a group of kids was hired to stare into the shop window. Comstock's attention was drawn to this sight and his moral outrage took over from there. That's the Comstock Effect: when one's outrage at something one considers obscene only serves to draw more attention to it than ever. The whole story is really funny. septembermorn.org/exhibits/show/history/america/newyorkHow interesting and how intelligent. Provocation of outrage as a promotional tool. It's a bit risky though in today's day and age...as my mind is racing on how to use it. It could really backfire. Thank you for the link. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 12:00:08 GMT
Anthony Comstock became notorious as the president of the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, a bastion of Victorian morality. Of all the terrible things he did under that aegis, the one that totally backfired on him was his outrage at the appearance of a painting of a nude girl in the window of a NY gallery. The result was that the painting became immensely famous, being reproduced in calendars, magazines and prints all over the country for decades. Even though the painting---"September Morn"---was a mediocre one that would have been quickly forgotten it is remembered and even familiar to this very day. Actually, Comstock got taken in by a clever publicity stunt. In order to draw attention to the painting, a group of kids was hired to stare into the shop window. Comstock's attention was drawn to this sight and his moral outrage took over from there. That's the Comstock Effect: when one's outrage at something one considers obscene only serves to draw more attention to it than ever. The whole story is really funny. septembermorn.org/exhibits/show/history/america/newyorkAn Anit-Vice crusader 😂 He would be busy today. |
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Post by ronmiller on Jul 15, 2020 12:44:22 GMT
Anthony Comstock became notorious as the president of the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, a bastion of Victorian morality. Of all the terrible things he did under that aegis, the one that totally backfired on him was his outrage at the appearance of a painting of a nude girl in the window of a NY gallery. The result was that the painting became immensely famous, being reproduced in calendars, magazines and prints all over the country for decades. Even though the painting---"September Morn"---was a mediocre one that would have been quickly forgotten it is remembered and even familiar to this very day. Actually, Comstock got taken in by a clever publicity stunt. In order to draw attention to the painting, a group of kids was hired to stare into the shop window. Comstock's attention was drawn to this sight and his moral outrage took over from there. That's the Comstock Effect: when one's outrage at something one considers obscene only serves to draw more attention to it than ever. The whole story is really funny. septembermorn.org/exhibits/show/history/america/newyorkHow interesting and how intelligent. Provocation of outrage as a promotional tool. It's a bit risky though in today's day and age...as my mind is racing on how to use it. It could really backfire. Thank you for the link. Yeah...it's a technique that certainly has been used deliberately but, I think, most often it is inadvertent---and if not often at least ironically. That happens when someone noisily protests something they find offensive, drawing much more attention to it that it would have ever gotten otherwise. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 23:33:15 GMT
Interesting. I was just reading posts on how Lulu is removing books if they determine the books do not adhere to human decency, and on my way to yahoo, I find that Amazon is in the middle of a controversy for doing just that.
oh i don't like this, i had my pen name Jimmy Boom Semtex ebooks all deleted off itunis/ibooks/apple store in 2017 after 5 good years. Even my ols sales data/numbers has goI had a few new ebooks listed there but use amazon now so hope they don't end up like itunes which i will boycott for good. Even my old sales numbers has gone off lulu's database |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 6:19:18 GMT
Interesting. I was just reading posts on how Lulu is removing books if they determine the books do not adhere to human decency, and on my way to yahoo, I find that Amazon is in the middle of a controversy for doing just that.
oh i don't like this, i had my pen name Jimmy Boom Semtex ebooks all deleted off itunis/ibooks/apple store in 2017 after 5 good years. Even my ols sales data/numbers has goI had a few new ebooks listed there but use amazon now so hope they don't end up like itunes which i will boycott for good. Even my old sales numbers has gone off lulu's database Did they tell you why they deleted them? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 13:26:41 GMT
I wonder if it's because Jimmy Boom Semtex is an "alternative writer/poet/author." who writes "quality erotica." So I presume it's nothing like Fifty Shades of Tedium. However as he says "Jimmy will never be muzzled."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 17:49:22 GMT
oh i don't like this, i had my pen name Jimmy Boom Semtex ebooks all deleted off itunis/ibooks/apple store in 2017 after 5 good years. Even my ols sales data/numbers has goI had a few new ebooks listed there but use amazon now so hope they don't end up like itunes which i will boycott for good. Even my old sales numbers has gone off lulu's database Did they tell you why they deleted them? Vague reason 'content matter' dozens of volumes/ebooks i could of edited 1 book or scene but not all no way as erotic adult age 18 tags etc. I boycott apple products all my life due to that. I'm serious here. they keep 50 shades of gray there. Why? Sells millions of units they make a killing on it. 50 shades was indie author book far as i know too. Anyhow each writer is different lol. |
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Feb 22, 2021 22:38:27 GMT
"Content matter" issues with erotica tend to involve some combination of bestiality, incest, non-consensual sex [aka rape], underage sex, or something else whoever at the site in question deems offensive. In other genres "content matter" and peoples' feelings have long been less than friendly. earlybirdbooks.com/banned-challenged-and-censored-booksAs a rule the Apple book store is fairly conservative, as in a cover showing a female nipple is considered too risque. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 4:26:45 GMT
Fifty Shades  is a 2011 erotic romance novel. You are right @nickgoth it was originally self-published as an ebook and print-on-demand in June 2011, the publishing rights to the novel were acquired by Vintage Books in March 2012. The author, Erika Leonard's, net worth is $150 million dollars. No one's yawning at that figure. LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 6:19:37 GMT
Fifty Shades View Attachment is a 2011 erotic romance novel. You are right @nickgoth it was originally self-published as an ebook and print-on-demand in June 2011, the publishing rights to the novel were acquired by Vintage Books in March 2012. The author, Erika Leonard's, net worth is $150 million dollars. No one's yawning at that figure. LOL I'm yawning. The book is unreadable. So badly written. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 6:21:39 GMT
Did they tell you why they deleted them? Vague reason 'content matter' dozens of volumes/ebooks i could of edited 1 book or scene but not all no way as erotic adult age 18 tags etc. I boycott apple products all my life due to that. I'm serious here. they keep 50 shades of gray there. Why? Sells millions of units they make a killing on it. 50 shades was indie author book far as i know too. Anyhow each writer is different lol. They would lose half their income if they deleted all the books with adult content. Huge market. |
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