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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 15:38:43 GMT
Good news is the grocery store isn't the only source for fresh meat. Wild hogs do traverse our yard fairly often in the middle of the night, meaning it wouldn't be difficult to down a small one. Well, we have hedgehogs, badgers and foxes, but they are protected, as are also most birds here, but I doubt they make good eating (although my trees are full of fat woodpigeons, but I think they are protected also, and I doubt I could get a gun licence anyway and I am rubbish with a crossbow) and also I doubt the local stately home would approve of us poaching their deer. Perhaps we could eat the 10s of 1000s of homeless we have here? Apparently there are fish in the canal.Really? You have so many homeless?
Do you have a sword or a big knife? For the animals in case things get dire.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 15:40:06 GMT
Ok, so now the grocery stores here have reduced their hours and the first hour is for the elderly or disabled. I suspected there are more restrictions to come. Prepare, everyone.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 20, 2020 15:59:54 GMT
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 20, 2020 16:02:47 GMT
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Post by BlueAndGold on Mar 20, 2020 16:43:19 GMT
Yes. The supply chain is strong here, but it only takes a few hoarding idiots to mess things up for everyone.
Some of the grocery stores have initiated a program where for the first hour of business on a few morning per week they only allow gray hairs or pregnant women and other at-risk people in the stores so they can shop in a lower-risk environment. The shelves should be in pretty good shape at that point but I haven't ventured that way yet.
Yesterday morning I was on other business and passed by one of those stores and the parking lot was packed! I just kept on task and stayed clear of it. Crowds have always given me the willies, and now more than ever.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 20, 2020 18:04:19 GMT
I get the point as well, though the context or circumstances of daily life can alter the options any of us have to choose from. Having essentially worked at home for a bit over six years, I long ago got accustomed to rarely go out, as I feel no great urge to socialize or be part of a crowd .
Being on the cusp of early retirement age with small children, the situation as it may affect me is what it is. When I say people need to be aware and take precautions reasonable to their particular situations and continue living their lives, it's because I'm looking just a bit further down the road, because life does go on whether we like the changes or not. COVID-19 isn't going to disappear, instead it will become part of our new normal. COVID-19 also won't be the last pathogen to emerge, as microorganisms are constantly evolving and it's just a matter of time before something relatively harmless changes. Humanity has perhaps gotten a bit spoiled due to the many medical advances since the Pandemic of 1918, and the current panic so many people are exhibiting is a result of complacency being shattered by the realization none of us are immune or impervious to forces of nature. I am aware my odds of surviving the new infection on the block aren't what they might have been forty years ago, but I'm also aware a wild hog could cross the road at just the wrong moment and flip the vehicle I'm driving. It''s just as possible a heart attack or stroke could flatten me today, tomorrow, or twenty years from now. Worrying about what might kill me won't help me live a day longer, so I take the precautions I'm able while realizing the risks involved. Every year more people in this country die from slipping in the shower and breaking their necks than die from being struck by lightening. People continue taking showers, while ignoring the risks, while fearing lightening due to the flash and following noise. All the same, being able to buy some toilet paper for us [the girls included with the spouse and me] or butt-wipes for the two-year-old would be nice. Too bad panic stricken hoarders have put an end to the supplies of basic items on a daily basis. Ah, the joys of being cursed to live through interesting times. Cameron, here some rows were empty for a day due to hoarders, but items were quickly replenished. I would think the same is being done in the US? The warehouses have plenty of stuff, but it's getting products on the shelves fast enough as is the problem. There's a big Texas chain that normally sends out 900 trucks daily, only now they're sending out 1400 a day.
Once the fidiots cleared so many shelves because the zombies are bound to appear any second, the stores can't restock enough because many of the same fidiots are going back for more. When the local store opens every morning now, the previous night's shipment wasn't enough to fully restock so what is there is gone in fifteen minutes.
Same with the other empty or mostly denuded shelves.
The problem here is scale. There are some 29 Million people in Texas, as opposed to roughly 56 Million people in England or 37.7 Million in Canada.
When enough people here start grossly overreacting and keep overreacting they're reinforcing their panic-fear of shortages, by fueling the very shortages they fear. Even with limits on items, they buy, take it to their car, then go back for more.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 20, 2020 18:20:37 GMT
Good news is the grocery store isn't the only source for fresh meat. Wild hogs do traverse our yard fairly often in the middle of the night, meaning it wouldn't be difficult to down a small one. Well, we have hedgehogs, badgers and foxes, but they are protected, as are also most birds here, but I doubt they make good eating (although my trees are full of fat woodpigeons, but I think they are protected also, and I doubt I could get a gun licence anyway and I am rubbish with a crossbow) and also I doubt the local stately home would approve of us poaching their deer. Perhaps we could eat the 10s of 1000s of homeless we have here? Apparently there are fish in the canal.We have wild hogs and no restricted hunting season on them. I'd need a gunsmith to check my antique 20 gauge, but the .410 is relatively new compared to the older 1920s vintage.
No stately homes around here, as ours is no better than most in the area.
Takes too many doves or squirrels to fill a belly, the quail aren't in season and they're no better on filling you up. The deer [out of season] need to be checked to see if they have wasting disease, a form of prion disease I'd rather not play with.
The wild turkeys in the area are protected I believe, but I hate cleaning big birds any way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 15:34:06 GMT
Kevin, you need to get a sword.
I don't see any homeless (Maybe one, not sure. He has a valise.) in my area but there are some downtown. However, there are trucks and vans who drive by on very cold days to take them to shelter. Or they'll die. It's freezing here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 15:36:37 GMT
Good news is the grocery store isn't the only source for fresh meat. Wild hogs do traverse our yard fairly often in the middle of the night, meaning it wouldn't be difficult to down a small one. Well, we have hedgehogs, badgers and foxes, but they are protected, as are also most birds here, but I doubt they make good eating (although my trees are full of fat woodpigeons, but I think they are protected also, and I doubt I could get a gun licence anyway and I am rubbish with a crossbow) and also I doubt the local stately home would approve of us poaching their deer. Perhaps we could eat the 10s of 1000s of homeless we have here? Apparently there are fish in the canal.We have wild hogs and no restricted hunting season on them. I'd need a gunsmith to check my antique 20 gauge, but the .410 is relatively new compared to the older 1920s vintage.
No stately homes around here, as ours is no better than most in the area.
Takes too many doves or squirrels to fill a belly, the quail aren't in season and they're no better on filling you up. The deer [out of season] need to be checked to see if they have wasting disease, a form of prion disease I'd rather not play with.
The wild turkeys in the area are protected I believe, but I hate cleaning big birds any way.
You have guns? I don't know one single person with a gun in this country except for ex brother in law who is a cop. However, all my family has guns in Greece Big ones and lots of knives. Huge ones. Cretans. From Crete. Not the bad word.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 15:42:04 GMT
Yes. The supply chain is strong here, but it only takes a few hoarding idiots to mess things up for everyone. Some of the grocery stores have initiated a program where for the first hour of business on a few morning per week they only allow gray hairs or pregnant women and other at-risk people in the stores so they can shop in a lower-risk environment. The shelves should be in pretty good shape at that point but I haven't ventured that way yet. Yesterday morning I was on other business and passed by one of those stores and the parking lot was packed! I just kept on task and stayed clear of it. Crowds have always given me the willies, and now more than ever. Yeah, crowds are creepy but so is running from people when you see them.
My friends, whose rock band I went to see live a few months ago, were running when they saw me at the dog run. They are about 70. It was impossible not to be stunned and a bit amused. No one else is reacting. We are all just chatting as usual.
The local Maxi and Loblaws superchain here is starting to install plexiglass for cashiers.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 21, 2020 16:02:41 GMT
We have wild hogs and no restricted hunting season on them. I'd need a gunsmith to check my antique 20 gauge, but the .410 is relatively new compared to the older 1920s vintage.
No stately homes around here, as ours is no better than most in the area.
Takes too many doves or squirrels to fill a belly, the quail aren't in season and they're no better on filling you up. The deer [out of season] need to be checked to see if they have wasting disease, a form of prion disease I'd rather not play with.
The wild turkeys in the area are protected I believe, but I hate cleaning big birds any way.
You have guns? I don't know one single person with a gun in this country except for ex brother in law who is a cop. However, all my family has guns in Greece Big ones and lots of knives. Huge ones. Cretans. From Crete. Not the bad word. A couple shotguns, easier to handle sizes, as opposed to what I consider guns which basically cannons. No artillery pieces as it costs a bit to utilize a howitzer, and no need.
A 20 gauge shotgun slug is roughly equivalent to .60 caliber while a .410 slug is .41 caliber, both big enough to stop a hog or a deer, or other critters.
I have a crate of edged pieces collected or crafted over the decades. Some are held simply for beauty of line, others for functionality. You never know when a varlous wretch might deserve smiting.
As for Mr Lomas and swords, I'm not certain they're exactly legal for a regular private citizen to own in England. Something about forcing people to play nicely together.
Here in Texas, with a few exceptions or excluded venues, it's legal to carry anything from a dagger or trench knife to a sword or spear, amongst other items. A hunting knife or usable ceremonial dagger is no big deal out here in the country, though I haven't seen anyone packing anything bigger. Hunting wild hogs would be where a good boar spear would come in handy, and something I plan to craft once I can get my little shop back to being a shop.
Most people around these here parts are at least bright enough to know the local police aren't going to play around with someone getting deliberately stupid regardless of what that person has in hand. As a result people don't tend to get stupid with weapons.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 16:11:48 GMT
I live in a small Market town. We have 4 cases of corona virus in our county and none in our market town or even nearby, yet when my husband went to the supermatket today he saw that the shelves were virtually empty. We're vegetarians and there have always been sufficient supplies of vegetarian products. However there wasn't a single vegetarian item. There was none of my husband's brown bread, no rice, no staples. It was 8AM in our supermarket and yet the supermarket(Tesco) was packed. My husband asked if there were any stocks in the back room and was told they too were cleared out. They couldn't tell him when the shelves would be re-stocked. It's rather worrying.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 21, 2020 17:02:57 GMT
I live in a small Market town. We have 4 cases of corona virus in our county and none in our market town or even nearby, yet when my husband went to the supermatket today he saw that the shelves were virtually empty. We're vegetarians and there have always been sufficient supplies of vegetarian products. However there wasn't a single vegetarian item. There was none of my husband's brown bread, no rice, no staples. It was 8AM in our supermarket and yet the supermarket(Tesco) was packed. My husband asked if there were any stocks in the back room and was told they too were cleared out. They couldn't tell him when the shelves would be re-stocked. It's rather worrying. Lady Elizabeth,
Your situation is what we've been dealing with for almost a week. Though we're not vegetarians, it's still slim pickings and next to no vegetables to be seen. If worse comes to worse, the spouse I will do without to make certain the kids eat.
The local store manager who a week ago was smiling about selling in one day what the store normally took three days over the holidays wasn't smiling yesterday when I saw him. He was worried because the panic-stricken have been stripping the store clean faster than the now overburdened supply chain can hope to restock it.
I'm also glad we bought several pounds of different types of rice last year, from wild to forbidden.
Hopefully enough people will calm down instead of making things worse for everyone, including themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 18:02:04 GMT
You have guns? I don't know one single person with a gun in this country except for ex brother in law who is a cop. However, all my family has guns in Greece Big ones and lots of knives. Huge ones. Cretans. From Crete. Not the bad word. A couple shotguns, easier to handle sizes, as opposed to what I consider guns which basically cannons. No artillery pieces as it costs a bit to utilize a howitzer, and no need.
A 20 gauge shotgun slug is roughly equivalent to .60 caliber while a .410 slug is .41 caliber, both big enough to stop a hog or a deer, or other critters.
I have a crate of edged pieces collected or crafted over the decades. Some are held simply for beauty of line, others for functionality. You never know when a varlous wretch might deserve smiting.
As for Mr Lomas and swords, I'm not certain they're exactly legal for a regular private citizen to own in England. Something about forcing people to play nicely together.
Here in Texas, with a few exceptions or excluded venues, it's legal to carry anything from a dagger or trench knife to a sword or spear, amongst other items. A hunting knife or usable ceremonial dagger is no big deal out here in the country, though I haven't seen anyone packing anything bigger. Hunting wild hogs would be where a good boar spear would come in handy, and something I plan to craft once I can get my little shop back to being a shop.
Most people around these here parts are at least bright enough to know the local police aren't going to play around with someone getting deliberately stupid regardless of what that person has in hand. As a result people don't tend to get stupid with weapons.
I started speaking with a Texan accent or what I think it might be based on Dallas and such as I was answering. I told you, sir, right out of a movie. Woohoo!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 18:04:23 GMT
I live in a small Market town. We have 4 cases of corona virus in our county and none in our market town or even nearby, yet when my husband went to the supermatket today he saw that the shelves were virtually empty. We're vegetarians and there have always been sufficient supplies of vegetarian products. However there wasn't a single vegetarian item. There was none of my husband's brown bread, no rice, no staples. It was 8AM in our supermarket and yet the supermarket(Tesco) was packed. My husband asked if there were any stocks in the back room and was told they too were cleared out. They couldn't tell him when the shelves would be re-stocked. It's rather worrying. Lady Elizabeth,
Your situation is what we've been dealing with for almost a week. Though we're not vegetarians, it's still slim pickings and next to no vegetables to be seen. If worse comes to worse, the spouse I will do without to make certain the kids eat.
The local store manager who a week ago was smiling about selling in one day what the store normally took three days over the holidays wasn't smiling yesterday when I saw him. He was worried because the panic-stricken have been stripping the store clean faster than the now overburdened supply chain can hope to restock it.
I'm also glad we bought several pounds of different types of rice last year, from wild to forbidden.
Hopefully enough people will calm down instead of making things worse for everyone, including themselves.
Take care of your babies, Cameron, and your woman. I pray things will calm down over there and glad you have the rice.
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