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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 19:17:20 GMT
Hopefully enough people will calm down instead of making things worse for everyone, including themselves.
I agree Sphinx-Cameron. They must stop panicking and emptying the shelves. What I don't understand is this obsession with toilet rolls. There was not a single roll left in our supermarket. As they say in the north of England, "there's nowt so queer as folk."
However there is an amazing thing happening too in my market town which reminds me of the years here in the UK duting the second world war. Local communities came together and people were so helpful to each other.
My next door neighbour who is a nurse and works in our local hospital, went round to all the houses in our very long road and gave everyone her telephone number. She offered her help to anyone who needed it. Also groups have sprung up around town offering to help the old and vulnerable. I have been very unwell and people in my road were very concerned as they hadn't seen me on my usual daily walk. Several of them offered their help.
Maybe disasters bring out the best in people.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 21, 2020 20:15:37 GMT
Well, wonderful. I am classed with the 'vulnerable' so am not supposed to go out. But I have just looked on line at major supermarkets and their delivery schedules are fully booked up for at least a week when normally it can be Next Day. 'Panic' buying on line it now seems, leaving me with no food etc, so with no option but to go out shopping.
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Post by BlueAndGold on Mar 21, 2020 20:24:14 GMT
I usually do not participate in political or social commentary on non-related forums, but perhaps this link will give a little more realistic perspective to current events versus what the blood-lusting news/politcs industry is whipping up. Perhaps it will give some hope. I'll try not to comment further:
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 21, 2020 20:30:09 GMT
Lady Elizabeth,
Your situation is what we've been dealing with for almost a week. Though we're not vegetarians, it's still slim pickings and next to no vegetables to be seen. If worse comes to worse, the spouse I will do without to make certain the kids eat.
The local store manager who a week ago was smiling about selling in one day what the store normally took three days over the holidays wasn't smiling yesterday when I saw him. He was worried because the panic-stricken have been stripping the store clean faster than the now overburdened supply chain can hope to restock it.
I'm also glad we bought several pounds of different types of rice last year, from wild to forbidden.
Hopefully enough people will calm down instead of making things worse for everyone, including themselves.
Take care of your babies, Cameron, and your woman. I pray things will calm down over there and glad you have the rice. Aye, Maggie,
When it comes to what binds me to your world, consider me a dragon with one eye open and little patience for would-be adventurers.
As for the movie part, mine would be a boring story, though some folks in there here parts can be interesting enough.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 21, 2020 20:35:24 GMT
Hopefully enough people will calm down instead of making things worse for everyone, including themselves.I agree Sphinx-Cameron. They must stop panicking and emptying the shelves. What I don't understand is this obsession with toilet rolls. There was not a single roll left in our supermarket. As they say in the north of England, "there's nowt so queer as folk."
However there is an amazing thing happening too in my market town which reminds me of the years here in the UK duting the second world war. Local communities came together and people were so helpful to each other.
My next door neighbour who is a nurse and works in our local hospital, went round to all the houses in our very long road and gave everyone her telephone number. She offered her help to anyone who needed it. Also groups have sprung up around town offering to help the old and vulnerable. I have been very unwell and people in my road were very concerned as they hadn't seen me on my usual daily walk. Several of them offered their help.
Maybe disasters bring out the best in people. Fortunately I was able to procure enough toilet rolls and paper towels today to last for the next two weeks, the way we normally space such purchases out due to space constraints.
Disaster can bring out the best in people, when the best has been existent all along. Where people were faking the best all along, the mask of virtue is quickly dropped.
You are quite fortunate to live where there are people who actively care, and show their consideration for others.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 21, 2020 20:37:19 GMT
Well, wonderful. I am classed with the 'vulnerable' so am not supposed to go out. But I have just looked on line at major supermarkets and their delivery schedules are fully booked up for at least a week when normally it can be Next Day. 'Panic' buying on line it now seems, leaving me with no food etc, so with no option but to go out shopping. Mr Lomas,
I'm in the same situation, though with far fewer options for delivery.
I hope you're journeying for supplies is neither fruitless nor hazardous.
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Post by Retread-Retired-Cameron on Mar 21, 2020 20:39:52 GMT
I usually do not participate in political or social commentary on non-related forums, but perhaps this link will give a little more realistic perspective to current events versus what the blood-lusting news/politcs industry is whipping up. Perhaps it will give some hope. I'll try not to comment further:
I'll try to get through the entire piece when the princesses and prince are asleep, easier to focus.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 23:06:44 GMT
I usually do not participate in political or social commentary on non-related forums, but perhaps this link will give a little more realistic perspective to current events versus what the blood-lusting news/politcs industry is whipping up. Perhaps it will give some hope. I'll try not to comment further: I like this guy.
Aaron Ginn
Growth is fun. I study people, habits, and beliefs. Co-founder of Lincoln Network. Former: Romney, StumbleUpon, & Everlane. Believe in One greater than myself.
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Post by benziger on Mar 21, 2020 23:35:05 GMT
Viruses are constantly trying to kill us off, and the human population still expands. Killing us is not in the interest of a virus. About two weeks ago I read an article that said SARS2-COVID19-virus is so aggressive at the moment because it is new. In principle, it is not in the sense of a virus to kill its host, because then it would lose its livelihood. That is why the most aggressive viruses of a species soon become extinct. But the milder version survived. As a result, we would have to live with the non-lethal form of Covid19 from the coming years onwards, like the annual flu. Or the common cold (which in 25% of all cases is due to a well-known mild [other] coronavirus).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 7:12:26 GMT
Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones.
But no. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal.
A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said."
We are at our best when we serve others. Be civilized.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 15:09:57 GMT
Well, wonderful. I am classed with the 'vulnerable' so am not supposed to go out. But I have just looked on line at major supermarkets and their delivery schedules are fully booked up for at least a week when normally it can be Next Day. 'Panic' buying on line it now seems, leaving me with no food etc, so with no option but to go out shopping. Go out, Kevin. Just stay away from people. Six feet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 15:12:42 GMT
Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones. But no. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal. A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said." We are at our best when we serve others. Be civilized. I looove it. I read it last night when I woke up at like two am but couldn't respond. Such a beautiful lovely story.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 23, 2020 4:31:17 GMT
Killing us is not in the interest of a virus. That's quite true, but it does not know that, but one has to wonder what their purpose is but to spread from one being to the next, as fast as possible. What is it they feed on?! About two weeks ago I read an article that said SARS2-COVID19-virus is so aggressive at the moment because it is new. Coronavirus (one type related to it (H. pylori) actually lives up your nose dormant, but can flare up to cause intestinal ulcers and other nasty things) is a general term from any virus that suddenly jumps from, for example, a chicken, to a human. So really it's no doubt an old virus that's new to us. And we have no defence against it. In principle, it is not in the sense of a virus to kill its host, because then it would lose its livelihood. Not if it spreads fast enough to become an epidemic or pandemic. The host dies because it has no defence, but the virus survives,That is why the most aggressive viruses of a species soon become extinct. Possibly, but there's a lot of humans to pass on to. The black Death or Bubonic Plague killed off everyone who was not luckily somehow immune to it. They were the only survivors. Here's an example >> just two survived because they did not get it nowiknow.com/the-plague-village/ . Some say the virus eventually died when a harsh Winter killed all the fleas, at least in Europe. But the milder version survived. As a result, we would have to live with the non-lethal form of Covid19 from the coming years onwards, like the annual flu. Or the common cold (which in 25% of all cases is due to a well-known mild [other] coronavirus). Although two pandemics were actually called Flu. It's a sort of cold war (no pun intended) A virus manages to mutate to attack us again, until we develop a cure or an immunity to it, and after some random time, it starts all over again.
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 23, 2020 4:56:49 GMT
Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones. It must have been many years ago because ideas have changed.But no. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal. That's not entirely true. Some animals, mainly ones that have the ability to use hands, have been observed sharing food with any one injured in their group. Unfortunately it's often infection of the injury that kills them. What she says is true for many grazing types of animals because predators usually pick off the slowest, ill, or injured. A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said." Not necessarily bound up. Just the creature looked after long enough for it to have healed up naturally, if it's not too bad, like a compound fracture, but deformed, usually, not properly set. Even so they are lucky to live a long life because in most cases infection can set in and poison the blood. The same can be said of many humans really. Ancient skeletons have been unearthed that have had the most horrific injuries, often from battle, that have not been well set, or set at all, but they lived on, crutches are not a new invention, it's just a stick. Many did not of course. Perhaps civilisation started in that instance when Penicillin was discovered? But what exactly is civilisation? This is the general concept >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CivilizationWe are at our best when we serve others. Be civilized. Not also when they serve us?
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Post by And Kevin 2024 on Mar 23, 2020 4:59:50 GMT
"Go out, Kevin. Just stay away from people. Six feet"
Act normally in other words? The problem is, one has to interact with things. Like doorhandles that many people have touched. I also have the unfortunate habit of breathing.
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